The full download is now available at Majorgeeks. It seems the Majorgeeks download is a later build then the one at Softpedia.
Hey folks, I have an ignorant question. I should probably know the answer, but, how do you update the boot menu with MR? For example, I noticed that there has been at least 2 updates since I last updated MR. Yet, I have the boot menu selected. Once I download & install the updates, how do I update the boot menu? Do I uninstall it and re-install it or is it updated when I update the program?
What you do is: 1. Rebuild the Recovery environment, and build the new CD or USB key 2. Just go an add the new RE to the boot menu. It will overwrite with the new one. Test both. Pete
Hello Alexhousek, Since you already have the boot menu option installed, you just need to recreate rescue media using the "Rescue Media Wizard" as described in this knowledgebase article: http://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW/Creating rescue media If there are updates available for your rescue media, you will be prompted to rebuild. You can select to burn the new media or save an ISO. Once complete, your boot menu media is also automatically updated. HTH... Edit: A bit slow to post as it seems Pete beat me to it !
I don't know if the boot menu is automatically updated, that would be new to me. I've just always installed it over the top.
Not sure why there is not a separate FREE thread, but will the update I get from opening FREE ver 5 be 6.0 ver 688 or is it still 685? I d/l from Majorgeeks, too and it claims it is FREE 6 ver 688? I guess redeply is not in FREE anyway, so 688 may not be needed?
I don't fully understand how to use the Rescue Media Wizard. In the part that is headed "Burn Rescue Media" do I have to click Rebuild, or do I just need to pick my destination device and click Finish. I have just built a USB recovery key but I didn't use the Rebuild button. It seems to boot OK but did I use the latest version of the recovery files?
You are OK. Unless you want to integrate certain hardware drivers into your rescue media, you don't have to rebuild it after your initial build.
I see, once again, that the new Free Version 6 does not support TRIM on my SSD. I have used Free Ver 5 to restore and it does work. There was an explanation a while ago (June 8th by Froggie) and I believe it said, since I was using Win 8.1 64 bit PRO with TRIM enabled that the image software did not need TRIM support. Is this true? Is it automatic or do I need to run something AFTER an Image restore?
MSPAN, not having Macrium automatically TRIM during its restore process is not a big thing... unless your volume is filled to the brim. This is especially true if you're doing a Rapid Data Restore (rather than aFULL rstore). Just do the restore, then when it's complete and back up, run a standard Windows OPTIMIZE on the restored volume and everything will be as it would be if TRIM was active during the restore. I don't believe there is one other imaging product on the market that supports TRIM during its restore process and they work just fine with SSDs. The Win8 OPTIMIZATION will get anything back that was lost during the restore as far as old data being carried around is concerned. If your OPTIMIZATION is set up on a regular schedule, that should actually be good enough without running a special OPTIMIZE run... I just do it out of habit (mainly due to lots of W7 usage which has no automatic OPTIMIZATION).
Hi Mr. Frog... Yes, I think all I need to do in Win 8.1 is... run dfrgui select my SSD and run Optimize Correct? However, here is something that was on another forum from a person testing v6 FREE...he did a restore with interesting results!! Here is what he posted.. Just ran a restore and in the operation box that popped up it said, SSD target detected-attempting trim operation SSD trim-operation successful If it's not included in the free version where has this come from?
MSPAN, you are correct... and as I edited in my previous reply, if you're already running a regular OPTIMIZE schedule under Win8 for your SSD, that should be more than adequate to do the same. That OTHER FORUM test may be showing something even Macrium doesn't know They may have forgotten to disable it. Just in case it really is disabled but throws out those messages, I would allow the Win8 optimization to do its thing... sure can't hurt. All that the Macrium TRIM does is, via the WinPE, trim all the blocks it plans to restore, no more. If you're doing a RDR restore and the changes are small, very few TRIMs. If you're doing an entire volume restore, lots of TRIMs. And during one of those big restores, even if TRIM isn't being issued, part of the common Garbage Collection code, when lots of SEQUENTIAL WRITEs are being performed (which is common in large image restores), the SSD is smart enough to recognize the sequential nature of the WRITE, see that all parts of a NAND block are about to be rewritten, and make a safe assumption that everything in that sequential block is about to be obliterated. As such it will not write pieces of that large NAND block, it will ERASE the whole block and WRITE the new data accordingly... the exact same operation it would use when writing normal data and having no OVER PROVISIONING space available to do such (it does that to FREE blocks that previously had data in them). There shouldn't be an issue of any kind as loing as TRIM is active in the OS and the SSD is doing its Garbage Collection.
Thanks Froggie: Well, I am using Win 8.1 and do not optimize at all...but I may do that to see what it says. Should I run a regular schedule? Since a full image only takes me 4 minutes, I ONLY run the full image. Not sure anything else would save any time.
Well, using the FREE version you don't have much choice... no RDR available. As far as W8 optimize is concerned, if you're not doing lots of image restores, the normal FileSystem cleanup should be more than enough for keeping that SSD in shape. An occasional OPTIMIZE wouldn't hurt, especially after a non-TRIM restore. I, personally, don't run a schedule on my W8 system... for no particular reason though. I do a lot of restores so the ol' W7 habit of manual optimize just kinda holds over from before.
Hello Pete, I have always just ran the "Create Rescue Media..." wizard and the recovery boot menu option has always updated itself without any need to do it manually. It should work the same for you and would cut out an extra step. Give it a try with the next update. HTH...
Well, in my Win 8.1, my Optimize function on my SSD only will NOT let me select ANALYZE...only OPTIMIZE. It will let me select either on my HDD. Do you know why it will not Analyze my SSD? OH, also, if I do tell it to Optimize my HDD can it mess up my Image Backups? Also, I just updated to FREE V6 and it seems like all I can do is create WINPE rescue media. What happened to the simple Linux based bootable option?!!!!
Hello pling_man, When you use the "Create Rescue Media" wizard, if there is an update available it will inform you. If you click "Continue" on the update, it will proceed to do the rebuild. So the short answer is "No", you do not need to click on "Rebuild". See more on the "Create Rescue Media..." wizard from the link in the following post: HTH...
DARN...I never noticed that they stopped the Linux Rescue Media. I just installed FREE V6! Can I make a simple WINPE media for my Win 8.1 Pro system? Does it require that I d/l gigs of data? Also, the only driver it says I need is an Intel Ethernet connection. This is working fine on my system, so IF I tell it to update is this just for the WINPE build as I want to leave my system alone!
Analysis of an SSD as far as its state of fragmentation doesn't make any sense... it really doesn't need to ever be defragmented, only optimized. "Optimizing" an HDD is nothing more than a standard defragment of the device. If you're only doing FULL images, there will be no effect. If you start using the DIFFERENTIAL capability of v6 FREE, an "optimize" of an HDD will indeed affect the resultant image... lots of changes (it will be much bigger than needed). WinPE only at this point in time. When you use it to create the media, it will download only what's needed for the creation (it varies the version of Windows in use... largest is about 450mB). It will also add whatever drivers (just for the PE) it needs that are unique to your system and not Windows generic. The process is pretty painless.
Thank you again! I will build the PE now. I guess there is no need for me to Optimize my SSD either. ***UPDATE*** Well, I did build it and it seems to work. Of course the LAN driver is not there and can not be found. I suspect that my Z97 board dvd will have it, but I don't know that I need it. I must say that the Linux rescue loads a lot faster (v5) and am not sure why they decided to go WINPE only.
In the discussion on their Forums, they state there were very few users who used it. They decide to leave it out for v6 and take a Poll over on the Forum. The poll results say pretty much what they expected... very few people would like it, most don't care if it's there or not.
