Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by ronjor, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. roger_m

    roger_m Registered Member

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    While others are doing their best to avoid or uninstall the GWX upgrade, I actually want to install it, but can't. I want to install it so I can run the upgrade advisor and see if my Windows 8.1 laptop can be upgraded. I fired up my Windows 8.1 laptop, and made sure all important updates were installed. A further check for updates found no more new updates. There were two optional updates which I didn't want to install, but installed anyway, but after doing so I was still not offered the GWX upgrade.

    Even activating Windows made no difference, although it was about time I activated it anyway, as I've been using this install of Windows for nearly a year.

    As a final step I downloaded the installer for the update from Microsoft, but it would not install.

    I guess I'll have to wait.
     
  2. SirDrexl

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    I'm sure the reset process will be fine for some people, but I want to do a fully clean installation. Part of the reason is because I want to perform a secure erase on the SSD to help restore its performance, and that obviously wipes the whole drive.

    Although, I can live with performing an upgrade once and then re-installing.
     
  3. Brian K

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    You could upgrade, Reset, image the partition, secure erase, restore the image. A workaround.
     
  4. Brian K

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    Roger,

    Did you try the batch file? It worked for me on 3 computers but took 10 to 15 minutes.
     
  5. Krusty

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    Gotcha! Thanks again. :thumb:
     
  6. roger_m

    roger_m Registered Member

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    What batch file?

    I want to install the update, not remove it.
     
  7. Brian K

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    The one here...

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...10-but-i/848b5cce-958b-49ae-a132-a999a883265b



    Code:
    REG QUERY "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\UpgradeExperienceIndicators" /v UpgEx | findstr UpgEx
    
    if "%errorlevel%" == "0" GOTO RunGWX
    
    reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Appraiser" /v UtcOnetimeSend /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
    
    schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"
    
    :CompatCheckRunning
    
    schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"
    
    schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready
    
    if NOT "%errorlevel%" == "0" ping localhost >nul &goto :CompatCheckRunning
    
    :RunGWX
    
    schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\refreshgwxconfig"
     
  8. roger_m

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    @Brian K Thanks, I'm going to try it now.
     
  9. Brian K

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    I just did another computer. After 10 minutes I saw an error message indicating I didn't have the Scheduled Task. I checked and didn't have it. Then I realized I'd installed the wrong Windows Update. KB 3035583 was installed. The batch file ran for one second before I saw Success. Quick this time.
     
  10. roger_m

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    @Brian K I got several errros when I ran the batch file, in an elevated command prompt. I made a change someone suggested in a post in the link you provided as follows:
    Now the Microsoft Compatability Appraiser runs without any errors every few seconds. I gather that this is meant to happen?
     
  11. Brian K

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    Yes, every few seconds until completion. But I can't recall seeing SUCCESS until completion.

    Edit... Check Task Scheduler. Do you have

    Task Scheduler Library\Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\refreshgwxconfig
     
  12. Peter2150

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    So far with the TP builds that isn't the case. I imaged my Win 7 machine. Then I installed Win 10 on top of it and image that. Had no issues restoreing the Win 7 image.
     
  13. roger_m

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    It's running repeatedly every 3 seconds.
     
  14. roger_m

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    @Brian K I change the batch file back to how it was originally, as the changed batch file did was still running after 40 minutes. When I run the original batch file, I get "ERROR: Element not found." after the last line of the batch file runs.

    I don't know why this is hapenning, as the name of the scheduled task is correct - I got a different message if I change the name, and exe file launched by the scheduled task is present on my hard drive.
     
  15. Brian K

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    See my edit about the Scheduled Task. Is it present?
    I now see that it is....

    Have you done all the updates? Is Windows update set to Automatically download....?
     
  16. roger_m

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    I've installed all the updates. I have found that error is caused do issues with the Task Scheduler which are preventing shcheduled tasks from running. I'm going to install and run Fix My Task Scheduler to try and fix the problems.

    Okay, so I ran Fix My Task Scheduler, and it fixed 13 issues. After rebooting, the unmodified batch file is now running without any errorr. I will post again when its finished.

    The batch file completed running after about 20 minutes, and I got the upgrade icon. I have no issues preventing me from upgrading to Windows 10 when it is released.
     
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  17. Krusty

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    Cool! But the TPs don't need to be activated do they?

    I thought I read in an earlier post in this thread that once you upgrade the old key gets disabled.
     
  18. anon

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    Windows Update : "Windows 10 upgrade reserved"

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    Make your Windows 10 reservation in Windows Update
    http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/make-your-windows-10-reservation-windows-update

     
  19. pegas

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    Probably evaluation of HW and SW compatibilities with Win 10 is still ongoing as today the above reported issue with AMD has been withdrawn and replaced by an information that there are no HW or SW issues and my system is completely compatible. However, next notice came up ... after upgrade to Win 10 perhaps I will have to install the language pack again.
     
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    LOL <slaps forehead> I forgot to put on my thinking cap. :) Yes indeed, I will be doing the same thing.

    That was a bit confusing. Especially this:
    Clean to me is wiped install drive, disk in drive. "from any of the supported Windows versions" sort of implies otherwise. Guess will have to wait for those other details.

    http://www.tenforums.com/windows-10...10-will-support-unlimited-clean-installs.html[/QUOTE]
     
  21. Peter2150

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    They did issue keys for the TP, but you may be correct. In any case I am not actually doing the update until the dust settles, and if they update situation doesn't change it won't be until I buy new hardware.
     
  22. Carver

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    I am going to have several total backups to chose from on July 29 and the bit about clean installs will be possible for those who upgrade to Windows 10 for free from any of the supported Windows versions, but no other details have been provided is confusing me to.
     
  23. emmjay

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    It seems to me that if the upgrade to W10 fails, you would be able to reinstate W7/8 from an image copy. I have not seen anything to date about what is happening with existing product keys. If a new key is issued and associated with W10 then that would be in keeping with how OS upgrades have been issued in the past. If an existing W7/8 key is activated automatically to W10 after a successful upgrade will there be any going back? I would expect that MS is not providing freebie upgrades just for us to try out. They obviously want you to accept W10 as your OS - in other words, a commitment. If the W7/8 product key gets ported over and auto activated to W10, you might not be able to go back - no longer a choice.
     
  24. Victek

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    What I understand from this is the system has to be upgraded first. Then, after 10 has been installed and that system has been uniquely identified it would be possible to wipe it and "clean install" 10, but we'll be finding out more I'm sure.
     
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    I'm wondering if your status change has come about because of MS automatically downloading a driver update to you. Did you check? I ask because the following MS FAQ implies (at least to me) that MS could be automatically 'prepping' users for the upgrade. I haven't been able to find out if these update 'preps' are automatic or presented as optional.

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/windows-10-faq
     
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