Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

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  1. WildByDesign

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    Secure Boot isn't required. In my testing of all Insider builds and leaked builds, I have used UEFI with Secure Boot disabled and currently still use it with Secure Boot disabled. Windows 10 wont force UEFI either and Legacy BIOS works just fine as well.
     
  2. Peter2150

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    Boy if you don't image look out. I bet July 29 is going to be a day of carnage. I have separate images I restore my machine with one 7 and one 10. I had win 10 pro build 10074 on, and windows update found build 10130 so away we went. On Home you can't turn off updates, on pro you can defer so it won't interfere right? Well during the download I got a bsod. Repeated and down load finished and then it "prepared for install" Got a bluescreen for that. it did pick up and final when it finished preparing I got a request to reboot. Then the install started. Stayed at the first 3 percent of copying files for an eternity. This upgrade has been about as smooth as course sandpaper.
     
  3. Mrkvonic

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    You don't need Secure Boot on to be able to boot Windows 10. I can confirm this.
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  4. TonyW

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    Thanks to everyone who commented about Secure Boot and Windows 10. That's made it clearer for me to see what's happening or should happen.
     
  5. ronjor

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    http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-can-be-clean-installed-during-and-after-free-upgrade
     
  6. taleblou

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    could because my new asus pc has secure boot UEFI enabled is the reason that I do not get the win 10 reservation? The other win 8.1 machine is a legacy boot. Maybe secureboot UEFI is not compatible with win 10??
     
  7. Mrkvonic

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    How to remove the Windows 10 GWX upgrade nonsense

    This is a very important article explaining how to get rid of the KB3035583 Windows 10 GWX upgrade prompt for Windows 7 and 8.1 users, by changing the ownership and permissions of the GWX folder, removal of scheduled tasks through registry, additional details, tips and tricks, commentary, and more.

    http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-7-to-10-gwx-how-to-remove.html


    Cheers,
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  8. Robin A.

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    Definitely not. It doesn´t have anything to do with Secure Boot or UEFI.
     
  9. Peter2150

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    HI Mrk

    Good article, but you missed the worst part of 10. You can't turn off Windows Update. In pro, you can defer the reboot, but other than that it happens at MS's decision, and worse, today when I ran thru it, I had BSOD's at the first two stages you can't turn off.

    Pete
     
  10. Mrkvonic

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    Well all this is BEFORE you get to Windows 10. As to whether you can turn it off, I'll explore.
    Mrk
     
  11. Banzi

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    From what I have read you can do a clean install after you have upgraded to windows 10 which seems a bit convoluted.

    Install windows 8.1
    Install All updates for windows 8.1
    Install the windows 10 update
    All just to do a clean install?

    Even though I have reserved the update for windows 8.1 pro x64 I would much prefer if MS released ISO's so I can do a clean install without all the needless steps. I'm hoping that when 10 is released they will have a page where you can enter a windows 7,8 or 8.1 serial & then it gives you the new serial & link to download the the ISO.
     
  12. Brian K

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    I'm not sure what they mean by a "clean" install. Can you create a custom ISO from your new Win10 upgrade? Maybe. Or does a Reset count as a "clean" install. I tried a Reset last night and it does a good job. Win10 now resembles a clean install.
     
  13. Banzi

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    From those quotes from Gabe Aul once you have updated the PC with Windows 10 you can then do a clean install. I never do upgrade installs as there is too much that can go wrong. Indeed each time Windows has updated the tech preview builds through windows update there has been issues with crashes, start menu not working etc & I have had to use a ISO to do a clean install.
     
  14. Brian K

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    Same here with upgrade installs. But the Win10 upgrades have been trouble free and I'm going to upgrade my current system.

    I'm multi-booting and I cloned my current Win8.1 to free space on the SSD (same SSD as Win8.1 occupies), then did a Win10 upgrade with ver 10130. I'm very impressed. All my apps work just as they did in Win8.1. I doubt I could do a better job with a clean install and then install all my apps. An upgrade will save me days of work and I won't be worse off.

    I will probably do a clean install to other free space on the SSD but just as a test OS.
     
  15. WildByDesign

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    If I upgrade from Windows 7 does that mean my Windows 7 key will be disabled, so even if I create an image of my W7 before upgrading, I won't be able to restore my system from my W7 image? Windows 7 would then be unactivated?

    Is this right?
     
  17. WildByDesign

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    I don't know if there has been a conclusive answer on that yet or not. Quite a few things up in the air still.
     
  18. Krusty

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    Thanks.

    I will hurry up and wait.
     
  19. ronjor

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    http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-youve-got-questions-ive-got-answers/
     
  20. Krusty

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    That impies we will be able to return to Windows 7, but I will not be among the first to try. ;)
     
  21. Robin A.

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    "Upgrading a PC to Windows 10 leaves the recovery partition for a Windows 8.1 PC intact. As long as you don't remove that partition, you should be able to roll back if you want to."

    A rollback would require more than the recovery partition. This is a small partition that doesn´t contain any image to restore. Perhaps the upgrade to Win 10 will create this image in the OS partition.

    It´s also possible to do a clean Win 8.1 reinstall using the MS ISO that has been available for some time.
     
  22. Krusty

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    Except I never mentioned W8.1.

    I also stated I would be creating an image backup, this will be on an external drive.
     
  23. Brian K

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    Krusty13,

    Before Win10 is installed over Win7, I'd create an image backup of Win7 with the NIC disabled. Then your restored Win7 can't be inactivated. You can experiment later with enabling the NIC to see if Win7 remains activated. But you can always restore an activated Win7 with the NIC disabled.
     
  24. Krusty

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    Thank you Brian.

    I create images by booting to SSR-2013 recovery disk (outside of Windows), without networking adapters enabled. Will this accomplish the same result?
     
  25. Brian K

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    No, you have to go to Open Network and Sharing Center, Change adapter settings, Network Connections. Right click on your adapter and click Disable. You can Enable the adapter after you have created the image.
     
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