Trend 2015 arrives tonight. Take a look.

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Mayahana, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. Mayahana

    Mayahana Banned

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    Total agreement here. I find Trend to be the lightest AV out (as do the testing firms), but a couple people insist it is heavy. So it's really a bad idea to make a decision based on postings. As always - try products. Even worse as you point out, people often quote issues with previous versions, or sometimes 10, even 20 versions back without updating their information. I can't even duplicate the WFC false positive here, and I have tried several times - as one example.
     
  2. Charyb

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    Please show where people are currently reporting issues with outdated versions. I especially want you to show where I have reported out of date issues. What facts are not in line with the current version? Please find these facts.

    If you have no problems installing Windows Firewall Control 4 and I do have problems, with images to show the detections by Trend, then there must be a bug somewhere. As you can see in the images, 'Suspicious Software Blocked' and 'File Removed'.

    Here is where a download of WFC4 can be found.
    http://www.binisoft.org/

    See more images showing version and detections.
     

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    Another post to confirm what I said before... each setup is different. Nobody is wrong, you have problem, someone else don't... so, TM has a problem or not? You have to install to know. Simply you cannot take users reports as granted.
     
  5. Charyb

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    Where are the facts that the information I posted is irrelevant to the current version of Trend? I don't see where anyone has come up with any proof that I or anyone else has posted outdated information.

    If Trend detects it as suspicious and removes the file on one system and doesn't on another computer, then the program is bugged.
     
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    Looks like a heuristics type of detection. Have you tried uploading the executable(s) to VirusTotal? Just curious if their detection with Trend comes up or not. I don't know if those online scan services utilize heuristics though or not.
     
  7. Charyb

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    No detections at Virustotal for WFCS.exe or WFC.exe.
     
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    You are missing the point here, its bugged on your system, its not bugged in another. Again your report is not questioned...

    BTW, also here wfcs.exe is detected by TM. :)
     
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    I am referring to my post... i.e. I am not questioning it.... :)
    Btw, for me its a different experience.

    There is a detection but I can exclude it from TM it and WFC is running fine. So 3 users 3 different result :D
     

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  11. Charyb

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    I'm glad that you posted this. I was getting ready to ask you if you had tried the combination for yourself.

    Three users with three different results. This certainly doesn't prove stability.

    This is proof enough for me that Trend has some stability issues and that my reporting, as well as others, is every bit as relevant and credible as anyone elses.
     
  12. Mayahana

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    Also factoring totally different configurations between systems, system settings, installed applications, and even settings within Trend itself. A storm in a teacup if there ever was one, this is the same with ANY software product, especially kernal level applications. The vast majority of people using it would never run into such things.
     
  13. zfactor

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    the problem with a few users here is they feel their way is the ONLY way and they are correct and no one else is. if it doesnt work for you and it does for them, then you are doing something wrong or its your system not the product.... sorry to say to those people not everyone will agree with you and not everyone else is wrong. some of us have been doing this for more than 25+ years and people like myself would NEVER ever state i had an issue with a product when i did not. in fact i have said after testing out a newer version of a product that it surprised me and i feel its now a very nice program. i personally could care less how you do things or run things or handle business or your own machines etc etc. i will do all of those things the way i see fit and those people will not change that. and there is no need to try to butt in every time anyone @ wilders decides they want to state their own opinions and those people do not agree with them so they instantly try to correct them or tell them they are wrong. when i state my own opinions i am not trying to correct anyone nor am i telling them they must be doing it wrong and have no idea what they are doing. if i disagree with someone i will say so and the same for when i agree with them.

    but and i mean this in the nicest way to those who feel they are the only right answer and want to correct anyone and everyone...... just stop, butt out. no one likes it and its annoying to everyone. if someone asks for your help then fine but otherwise this is a public forum and EVERYONE is entitled to their OWN opinions and are allowed to post them without other people jumping down their throat every time they post.

    i am not directing this to anyone specifically, but this should in general go for everyone here.

    to the mods i am sorry for posting this if it breaks any rules, im just getting tired of always seeing these handful of people doing this. so please remove if you feel the need to.

    thank you.
     
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    The only proof here is that one users can run it without problems, another just need to exclude a false positive (minor issue) and the last cannot run the two at the same time (major issue). IMO, I cannot conclude that, based on this evidence, a product is generally unstable.
     
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    I just wonder what would have been said if Kaspersky had treated the same program differently on different machines... :isay:
     
  16. Mayahana

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    Charyb unlike others, provides evidence of his issues, so that gives them great weight over the straw men types of claims consistent with some users here. But I do agree that it's not logical to claim a product is generally unstable, while I wouldn't discount his issues in the slightest, I don't think we can draw global conclusions from it.

    I would however love to see this thread get back on track....
     
  17. simmersK00L

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    So far my experience with trend 2015 has been positive (fwiw :rolleyes:) Installed it last month on a new "high end" laptop (that my wife uses) don't even notice it running performancewise. For a few reasons I just installed it on an older XP desktop, and the installation was a little rough but I understood why (from reading here), and I might say that it is "heavy" but only in the sense that it is running 7 processes, but overall they seem to use little resources and system is running pretty fast and faster as I use the pc. I also had a minor question (not addressed in this forum) and I went online to support and immediately got a knowledgeable trend tech on chat at 400am. (the av I uninstalled which I like -- I sent them a support email and it took 3 days to get an unhelpful reply). I find reading divergent opinions is often helpful in understanding the pros and cons, deeper insights. helps me to know what to expect and look for when I install / test. (if I have a signature, I need to update it)
     
  18. Nightwalker

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    Does anyone know where I can find the changelogs for version 2015 updates? I saw that some components received some updates last week, now Trend Micro seems to be rock solid in my machine.
     
  19. Mayahana

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    Trend's visual evolution over the years.

    First one is 2005-2007, second is 2008-2011 third is 2011-2014, last is 2014(last 3 months) to present.
     

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    Going farther back, starting in 2000..
     

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  21. Nightwalker

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    Trend Micro and Norton (2015) seems to share many similitaries, both can get agressive boot and heuristics automatically after some malware detections:

    http://i.imgur.com/Ht4WDLo.png

    Norton goes back to "normal" boot settings afterwhile, but Trend seems to stay on maximum protection.
     
  22. Mayahana

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    I default to extra security. I find it runs better, and provides deeper protection without slowing down a system.
     
  23. tgell

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    Going further back this was my first antivirus.

    pc-cillin-95-10-2.gif
     
  24. Mayahana

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    Remarkable. Thanks!
     
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