Norton Internet Security, Antivirus and 360 Being Retired?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Raza0007, Sep 19, 2014.

  1. Jo Ann

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    Does Norton Security 2015 still have the Identity Safe (Vault)? ...if it does, will it function transparently with NIS 2014 Identity Safe entries?
     
  2. Mayahana

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    It appears this aspect is identical to 2014
     
  3. Victek

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    Yes, the Identity Safe is a separate module and in fact free (go Symantec LOL), so it should get along with different versions of NIS.

    That said I would recommend the equally free LastPass over Identity Safe.
     
  4. Jo Ann

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    Mayahana, do you know that for certain?
     
  5. Mayahana

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    Well by looking at the notes back when it released, I didn't see anything related to any changes with that. Open a web chat with Symantec?
     
  6. Jo Ann

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    Victek, I know that the Identity Safe is available as a separate module but I am asking if it is integrated into Norton Security 2015 and if it will function 100% with our 2014 Norton Vault entries?

    Fwiw, I've tried LastPass and it makes (my) IE 11 hang for several seconds on every new site I go to!!!
     
  7. xxJackxx

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  8. Mayahana

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    You may be the only LastPass user that uses IE. Hehe.
     
  9. xxJackxx

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    It works fine here, though I use Firefox more than IE, no problems with either. I prefer LastPass to Identity Safe, but there are a lot of Norton users that won't switch and if that is there preference, no problem with that.
     
  10. Wendi

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    Hi Jo Ann,

    I have a 3-year NIS 2014 license with 22 months remaining before expiration so I am directly affected by your concern. Last month I contacted Symantec re this matter and was informed that according to Symantec policy I will receive full support of my 2014 product until its expiration, or if I choose to upgrade to a 2015 product they would add the remaining months on my 2014 product to any 2015 upgrade.

    Hth,
    Wendi
     
  11. Jo Ann

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    Thanks so much Wendi, that completely alleviates my concerns! I am quite content with NIS 2014 (no bugs here!), so based on your reply I will buy a 3-user 2014 license for another year. :)

    Jo Ann
     
  13. Wendi

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    Jo Ann, you are so welcome - and as I share your content with NIS 2014 I chose to continue with my present 2014 license rather than upgrade at this time (I may reconsider that after 2015 is more 'seasoned'). ;)
     
  14. Mayahana

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    Why on earth renew 2014 when a newer, more stable, lighter, and more protective version is available for the same price? Much of the Symantec Enterprise Technologies are now migrated into 2015 providing some pretty nice protection improvements. To ignore those seems a bit strange to me, maybe I fail at this logic chain.

    What needs to be 'seasoned' in 2015? Can you document any issues with it? Given that the changes in 2015 are based off a 2 year old Enterprise product tested on millions of machines I don't know how much more 'seasoned' it can be...
     
  15. Mortal Raptor

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    +1, the 2015 Norton Security has actually given me 0 quirks as opposed to earlier versions! it is the best of the best that Symantec has to offer, doesn't make any sense to get an old license which many people are wanting to upgrade to the new system already.

    Also you said season? season what? there is nothing to be seasoned
     
  16. Wendi

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    To start with, please understand that it's not my intent to start an argument. I am an experienced Norton user and as IS administrator of our school it was my job to evaluate NS 2015 in order to determine if we should upgrade our systems (from NIS 2014). I did just that, only to be shocked at NS 2015's relatively poor malware detection (as compared to that of NIS 2014). Actually, I was so surprised that I wanted to see if I could find any independent tests of NS 2015 on the internet. I came across the following test which closely confirms my findings...

    ~Link removed~ See this.

    Wendi
     
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  17. FleischmannTV

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    Definitely one of the funniest things I've read in a long while that IT 'administrators' are using the Pee Security Channel for endpoint security evaluation.
     
  18. Mayahana

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    I was thinking the same thing. It comes back to the whole abuse of the "IT", people use it for everything now to the point they've diluted it to near meaningless levels. Nevertheless, that video has long been discredited, and watching it with an understanding of the product quickly shows why. Interestingly the video right under it shows Norton 2015 scoring 100%, and the guy was unable to infect a machine (which by the way closely conforms to MY honeypot testing) so it's not hard to see why the other test is broken. I love the 'determined that it has poor malware detection'.. So what samples did you use? What methodology? Can you document any of this? Ironically in a school environment Norton 2015 with Insight/Reputation dialed up would probably be the PERFECT solution!

    What I find actually working in 'real' IT.. Companies now hire what amounts to a type of intermediary between their actual IT, and the company. It's usually anyone they can find hanging around that 'knows the most' from the people there about computers. Then they shop out their real IT to an MSP, and toss this person that 'knows the most' in a position to sort of act as a liaison. I deal with this everyday, all day, and it they really just get in our way. But since companies need someone that isn't a talking brick to interface with their contracted IT, it's what they do.

    No offense intended, but what are your credentials, and what methods, testing, and research do you use to determine what products to deploy in a business/school environment? Why are you looking at a consumer version to determine deployment in a school environment? Shouldn't you be examining Symantec Endpoint Protection instead? Deployment on anything more than a tiny number of computers is a nightmare unless you are on a centrally managed endpoint product. But as an "IS Administrator" you should know this.

    Do you run WS 2008, 2012, or RC? LDAP? AD? Exchange? How are users administered, and policies? Why not deploy an EPS, or a UTM with Filtration rules? Do you already deploy a NGFW with FR's? You bring some claims to the table, maybe we can assist in finding the best solution so you don't make baseless claims that can't be substantiated...
     
  19. xxJackxx

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    I would find it odd that there would be much difference between them. I honestly would not run either one without MBAM Pro, which is what I am currently doing.
     
  20. Victek

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    Can you say more about your personal findings? Regarding that video there was a fair bit of discussion here about it. The methodology is dubious and it really doesn't constitute a fair test. I would read more then one review in any case before deciding whether or not to use a particular security product.
     
  21. Frank the Perv

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    Dennis Tech & AV Test both rate Symantec Endpoint Protection (SEP) 12.1 at the top (or tied for the top) in protection.

    http://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/business-windows-client/windows-8/october-2014/

    http://dennistechnologylabs.com/reports/s/a-m/2014/DTL_2014_Q3_Ent.1.0.pdf

    I use Symantec Endpoint 12.1.5 (client only) at home on two computers. I like it. Always, smooth, always stable..

    I do use MBAM Pro with it. I'd eventually like to add either NVT or AppGuard to the mix when they get more refined and smoother.

    Yes, NS/NIS does not equal SEP, but they are more closely related now than ever (as far as I know).
     
  22. Mayahana

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    Symantec EP is an excellent choice. Crank insight to 6 or 7, Bloodhound/Sonar to aggressive. Block/Block on all of the options, and presto, you have a really nice endpoint suite. The problem is a lot of people deploy it with default settings, and it lets things through.

    SEP and Norton are getting closer by the revision, especially with 2015. This is good news.
     
  23. 142395

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    I can understand purchasing 1y license for NIS2014 if it really works for someone, but at least nobody should by 3y.
    That means when others are using NS2017 still you have to use 2014... dated security.
    Though it's still not clear whether NS 2015 customer can upgrade their license, I believe it will be because they claim NS is more of a service than product. If not, I won't use Norton anymore.
    But I'm still using NIS2014. guess me!

    NS2015 is still NOT AVAILABLE in Asian-Pacific area!
    Usually they offer new version within a month or so after publication in US.
    But this year not, and many people are wondering but there's no official announcement.
    Some people asked in local Norton community, the answer was 'corporate secret'.
    So there're many guesses, e.g. they're too busy for company division, or different license system preventing smooth release, etc. But I think any of them can not be enough reason for such a long delay.
    Another absurd practice as well as do-not-upgrade policy, isn't it?
     
  24. FleischmannTV

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    Yes, I agree and all this is sadly completely overshadowing the quality of the 2015 product line.
     
  25. Mayahana

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    Keep in mind Norton is reorganizing right now. Spinning off an entirely security focused division. With that, the channels have changed I believe.
     
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