Norton Internet Security, Antivirus and 360 Being Retired?

Actually streaming these days isn't as bandwidth intensive as most people think, especially with QOS and Adaptive QOS. My house is fully capable of handling 50 clients in the home on a 56Mbps connection without any slowdowns or hiccups. Interestingly, I work with many businesses that use 50-60mbps lines - sometimes up to 100 people in an office on them. I even run 2 2012 servers on my 56mbps line along with those 50 clients.. Anything more would only increase download speed, which isn't relevant after most of your clients update anyway. I find homes often bottleneck not because of connection speed but because of gear in the home. Slow switches, switches with green mode, switches with QOS. Also layered QOS is a hideous idea, and most homeowners don't know enough to avoid layering QOS so they 'feel' they need faster speeds when they actually need better gear, better connection management, and correct configurations.

Even simple tweaks like disabling Windows heuristics can impart much better performance over a home network; (elevated CMD prompt) netsh int tcp set heuristics disabled (and many other settings that can dramatically improve performance)

Who offers a 150/100 line? Verizon is symmetrical, so that's not a Verizon connection. Comcast max is 105. What is the company selling you 150/100's and what state? I'm curious because I work with carrier services, and I am unaware of a 150/100 asymmetrical from any cable company.

 

Actually it would be fine, even on that miserable connection.

Slow crappy connections become a problem when you toss a folder with 200 zero-day malware at Norton. Under normal operating conditions this would never be an issue.

 

I get a download speed of about 5 MB when i test it. But i can set my Maxthon Browser to show my downloading speed. The most i ever get is about 400 KB and that is when i go to Facebook.

 

im with verizon and im looking at my current plan right now. i thought it was 150/100 (correction it WAS previously listed on a older statement as 150/100 so im not sure when they changed me but i have the statement right here in front of me and they did not raise my prices at all ). in fact i used to have 50/25 a while back as well. then i went up to the 150/35 and then the 150/65. they did used to offer plans that were not symmetrical but in fact currently it is 150/150. just ran a speed test to verify this. so on that you are correct but comcast 100% offers higher speeds plans. i know a rep personally and they offer much higher than 105 in fact its up to 505. but you do need extra equipment for that. http://www.comcast.com/505 and yes in our area they said it is available. comcast and verizon both offer more than what is listed on their normal website that people see. verizon here offers a 500 plan as well. im also told they offer a 150/20 from comcast as well its called extreme 150 LOTS of articles and posts confirming this as well:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29148064-Speed-Extreme-150-20-Arrived-today
http://hothardware.com/News/Comcast...105Mbps-For-Blast-Internet-Service-Customers/
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2456310,00.asp

as far as verizon goes they also offer faster than 150/150:
http://fios.verizon.com/fios-quantum.html

check the chart on that page they have 300/300 and 500/500 now. im thinking i may try out the 300 plan next....

 

Business class is over 105. Consumer class is 105. Business class ramps up heavily in price.

I'm aware of all of the higher Verizon plans, I was simply saying Verizon is symmetrical, and you were saying your connection was asymmetrical, which is impossible with Verizon.

 

the 150/20 is a consumer plan here from what the person who is a rep just told me. quote here:

"Comcast has increased the speeds of two Xfinity Internet tiers in the Northeast: Xfinity Internet Blast now offers speeds of up to 105 Mbps, up from 50 Mbps; and Xfinity Extreme 105 has been bumped to 150 Mbps from 105 Mbps. "

also the 505 is NOT business plan:

Speed wins.
XFINITY® delivers the fastest Internet, now with download speeds up to 505 Mbps.
Introducing Extreme 505 from XFINITY – the fastest Internet available. With Extreme 505 you get the speed you need for your >>>>>>>entire house<<<<<<<. Stream full movies in HD, game in real time with no lag and download large multi-media files — on all of your devices, all at the same time.

Not only do you get the fastest Internet, but you’ll get Constant Guard®, the most comprehensive online protection of any Internet provider, included at no extra cost — a $360 value. Constant Guard includes Norton™ Security Suite, identity theft protection and more to help keep you safe online.

Get the fastest Internet in your >>>>>>>house<<<<<<< for $399.95 a month.

(anyone who wants to pay 400$ a month for internet well thats another topic all together.) but both the 150 and 505 plans are consumer plans for households. stated right on comcasts own pages.

 

That's new, basically it's the business class labeled for consumers.. Those speeds have been around for a long time with their business class packages. Grossly ovepriced in some cases. That seems to be very region specific. This doesn't have too much to do with Norton. But I was wondering why you kept saying your speed was asymmetrical for Verizon when I know they don't offer them. You seem to be somewhat of a techie so it was curious you weren't aware of your own speed. It went grossly off topic from there.

 

correct but they are consumer packages now. that was my only point. and yes agreed 1000% grossly overpriced. as far as my speeds they must have just recently bumped me. i actually tested it not to long ago for a hardware beta test i am doing (for a router) and when i sent them then speedtest results it showed the older speeds. that was only in the last month or so. so not sure when i went to 150/150. ive been so ridiculously busy i have not spent much time messing with my home network this past month so i did not notice. i know they were just putting in all new fiber here the past few months. wasnt sure why since they just put our fiber in about a year and a half ago.

and yes we should get back on topic.

 

They should practise what they preach.

http://norton.com/nuc

 

Might be overpriced for a single user but at 99 bucks that is less then ten bucks per computer. for the ten package deal. plus you get 25 gig cloud storage I think.

 

That's a good deal if you have that many devices, but obviously less good as the number of devices decreases. I provide support for home users and I've yet to see a household that would benefit from a ten seat license. Other products that offer three and five seat subscriptions are often a better value.

 

if you count phones etc that it can be installed on the count can quite easily reach 10 per household

 

$89 is cheap for 10 devices.

If you open a support chat they will give you a 50% off price. You need to purchase it full price in the chat, give the chat person your order number, then they will generate a refund for 50% of it. I purchased a AV+Backup package for 2 years, 50% off, for 10 devices. That's a steal. I am very impressed with the new Norton.

 

I did say this ages ago in this thread,seems nobody was reading the fact you could get it cheap and were just moaning at price/no reductions for licence holders of current products without bothering to contact Norton to discuss it

 

"That's a good deal if you have that many devices, but obviously less good as the number of devices decreases. I provide support for home users and I've yet to see a household that would benefit from a ten seat license. Other products that offer three and five seat subscriptions are often a better value."

"if you count phones etc that it can be installed on the count can quite easily reach 10 per household"

DITTO!!!
some of the Mungs I work with all their kids have phones lol

Steve I was one of the very first Norton luver here on the original 1000 members so you don't have to remind me. I stuck with them all these years through the fan boy haters about resources usages.
I think a good point here is the Lic are good for your phones as well not just a home of one or two PC's

 

the only other comparable product with the pricing is Eset I believe right now.

they offer a 6 license pack for $84.99 or 10 license pack for $99.99 both at one year.
and you can use both the Smart Security suite or the AV with the license.

Which is not bad. personally own the 2 year 10 pack.
But I do wish Norton would offer a simple 3 pack at a lower rate for those with 2 PC's

 

I Guess it pays to Beta test
Hi bigc73542,

Thank you for providing helpful feedback during the Norton Security and Norton Security with Backup Public Beta test. We are happy to give you a Norton Security with Backup 10-user key that is valid for one year.

 

For those worried their wouldn't be any discounts on the new Norton, Newegg has with backup version on sale for $59.99. Not spectacular, but I'm sure discounts will get better in time.

 

$59 for 10 PC's and 25GB of Cloud Storage isn't spectacular

 

Not really. Very few people have 10 pcs. That is just a ploy to charge more. I used to often see versions of Norton on sale for <$20, though that was probably for a more reasonable 3 PCs.

 

That's 10 PC's and Devices. It's not a ploy, it's designed to provide an affordable license sufficient to cover the 'average' household. My brother and his wife together have 8 devices in their home, and I don't even consider them to be all that technological. That's just 2 people. 3 Mobile Phones, 2 Tablets, 2 Notebooks, 1 Desktop .. So in his case, $60 over 1 year, spread across 8 devices is only $0.02 per day per device.. See how ridiculous it is to even debate this?

 

It will be ridiculous in about six months when you will see sales for Norton under $20.

 

It's possible, but unlikely given the restructuring of the company and product line, and also the integration of many enterprise aspects into it. I'd be surprised if it ever hit $20.. Possible, but I would be very very surprised. Even ESET doesn't drop that low with their 5+5 packages ($34.95)

 

I've never paid more than $10-$15 for Norton or any other AV license, and never will. In fact, years ago I regularly used to get Norton free after rebate. I have like eight licenses I have never even activated. Too many great free solutions that offer similar protection that Norton does. I have never used AV on a tablet or phone, and having 10 devices is of little importance. If they can get by charging $80, good for them, but I suspect they will have to live off their corporate sales. And I still believe we'll be seeing sales for Norton MUCH cheaper that $59.99.

 

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