What is your cleanup plan?

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  1. Tyrizian

    Tyrizian Registered Member

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    This is currently my cleanup plan, to keep thing's running smoothly at all times.

    Defrag and drive optimization plan: O&O Defrag Professional Edition

    Scheduled Task - Automatic SSD TRIM optimization (Drive C:\) = every 5 days

    Scheduled Task - Automatic defragmentation (Drives D:\ and E:\) Quick defragmentation = every 3 days, Thorough defragmentation = Weekly

    Manual Task - Free space optimizations (Drives D:\ and E:\) = The last day of every month

    Registry cleaning plan: Wise Registry Cleaner

    Scheduled Task/Manual Task - Automatic registry scan = 5:45 PM every day, Manual Registry cleanup if needed

    Disk cleaning plan: Privacy Eraser

    Scheduled Task - Automatic disk cleaning = every 01:30:00 hours indefinitely

    I am curious to see how you run thing's on your machine(s).

    Please share
     
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  2. TS4H

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    Thats quite a backup plan @TyRidian , mine is nowhere as extensive; i do however incorporate the following;

    Weekly total cleanup including browsing history, cache, junk files and registry cleanup via Windows Task Scheduler and Ccleaner, excluding some selected cookies

    On a side note since i purchased my Samsung 840 Evo SSD i have not performed a defragmentation as i was under the impression it was not not needed, however using Samsung magician SSD utility, i have setup all trim commands and optimizations using the Optimum performance presets.

    So my question is, based on your knowledge is it STILL recommended to defrag SSD systematically every so often or optional?? Any advantages to Defrag or not?

    Regards.
     
  3. J_L

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    Other than what Windows does, I just do mine sporadically.
     
  4. 1PW

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    Hello TyRidian:

    Probably overly ambitious. Yet if you're running a comm room for a remote CIA posting - OK.

    I'm with you up to the registry cleaning. Let the new Windows releases take care of the registry. Scheduled System Recovery Points (SRP) and a thoughtful back-up plan - yes. One silly slip-up from your Wise Registry Cleaner could make your life interesting & busy for a while. I would dial back on the defrag just a little bit more to prolong the life-span of your HDDs.

    Privacy erasing that frequently? Is that what the CIA dictates these days? :ninja:

    Some definite, flippant, tongue-in-cheek from me of course. Yet I hope you're taking good care of computing security too.

    Cheers.
     
  5. Tyrizian

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    As far as a regular defrag goes, you should never defrag an SSD like you do with a regular mechanical drive, A TRIM optimization I do recommend doing ever so often on your SSD, as that is safe to do and can show a small, but noticable gain in performance, as well as maintaining the life of your SSD.

    I initializa a TRIM optimization on my SSD every 5 days, which I think is good enough.

    If you wanted, you could even get away with doing TRIM optimization on the last day of every month.
     
  6. Tyrizian

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    I'm always up for doing adjustments to my cleanup plan.

    I'll take some of your advice and implement what I think is fitting for my needs.

    Thanks for your input, I appreciate it :thumb:

    By the way, just out of curiousity, what is all the CIA stuff about?
     
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  7. Tyrizian

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    I usually like doing sporadically, but figured I would try the automated approach this time.

    Of course I have a mixture of automation and manual attention with the registry cleaner.
     
  8. Minimalist

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    I don't have cleanup tasks scheduled but I do them manually. My cleanup tasks are:

    CCleaner - run frequently (few times a day) using /AUTO switch with assigned hot-keys.
    CCleaner - run approx. once a month to clean my registry.
    Windows build-in disk cleanup - run approx. once a month I clean system disk including system files (update backup files).
    Defraggler - run once a week on non-SSD partitions. I use quick defrag option.
    Now and then I also run CCleaner and run Wipe free space on non-SSD partitions.
     
  9. TS4H

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    Right thanks for your response. That is what i thought although i dont think it is as important with these newer SSD's. For first/second generation SSD's was a vital that Defrag was not run. Trim is enabled but like you i also run manual Trim optimization every so often as well.

    regards
     
  10. Tyrizian

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    Yeah sure, not a problem :thumb:
     
  11. Tyrizian

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    I usually don't automate/schedule my cleanup procedures, but I just wanted to give it a go and see how it works out for me.

    So far, it has been working great and has also freed up my time doing all the manual stuff, although some still require my attention, just so I don't run into any issues.

    By the way, I like your cleaning approach...simple and to the point.
     
  12. Rmus

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    Being the lazy type, I've used Deep Freeze (Since Win2000 days) so that my C partition (includes the Registry) is automaticlly "cleaned" on each reboot. This partition contains nothing but programs.

    My data partition never has "junk" written to it, so there is nothing to clean.

    I use Windows Defrag to analyze that partition, and rarely have to defrag it. I think the last defrag was late last year.

    I use batch files to do real time backups of my work to USB drives.

    That's about it!


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  13. Nebulus

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    I always do things by hand and when I consider that is needed. However, I think that having an automated plan is a good idea, because it removes any arbitrary decisions (like acting on a "feeling", as I do :) ).

    That being said, I do have two observations about your plan:
    1. You seem to defragment too often. I don't know exactly what is the pattern of your file operations, but for a normal use it seems a bit overkill.
    2. I don't see the usefulness of a registry clean-up every day. Sure, it might be an idea to do a check-up from time to time, but don't do it too often :)
     
  14. TairikuOkami

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    I use WiseCare randomly as needed (registry and files cleaning, HDD defrag) and I turn off my computer with bat/CCleaner along with applying my registry tweaks.
    Code:
    regedit.exe /S D:\...\File.reg
    timeout /t -1
    start "" "C:\Program Files\CCleaner\CCleaner64.exe" CCleaner64.exe /AUTO /SHUTDOWN
     
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    * Junk-file Cleaning: Disk Cleanup (Windows) and CCleaner (with Winapp2.ini)
    * Registry Cleaning: CCleaner.
    * Disk Defragmentation: Snapshot Defragmentation (RollBack Rx)
     
  16. 1PW

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    The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), operates stations through out the free world. To safely communicate with their headquarters in Langley Virginia and peer stations, you would rightly expect these remote stations, and their operations, to observe a level of information security precautions at only the highest governmental levels. i.e. encryption, secure erase, etc.

    Of course this is not just limited to the CIA.
     
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  17. ratchet

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    So what is this TRIM optimization? I thought TRIM was TRIM and an SSD is always just "trimming" along if it's functioning properly.
     
  18. trott3r

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    Thats what i want to know as well ratchet.
    I dont know what trim optimisation is.
    Is manufacturers software used or is there a program that can do it for all SSDs?

    Maybe they are forcing trim to work?
    Which is what i do daily by deleting a file to recycle bin and emptying.
     
  19. Cloudcroft

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    Add me to the list who'd like to know what this is. I've had an SSD for over three years and have always assumed trim is taking care of itself. The drive is just as "snappy" and fast as it was the day I installed it.
     
  20. trott3r

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    Trim is meant to be taken care of by the ssd firmware AFAIK.

    In that case does it matter that vista and xp dont have trim support?
     
  21. 1PW

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    IMHO, the technical expression, and the command, TRIM is the process of optimizing the SSD, and that we are not discussing two different actions.

    Those of us with SSDs in pre-Windows 7 systems, might need to have the TRIM command issued manually or through the use of a utility that can periodically issue a TRIM command. The real question might then be; how often is often enough. We don't want to write to a SSD unless it's necessary.

    Cheers.
     
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  22. moontan

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    nothing too exciting on my side.

    every week or so, i take a disk image but i run Windows Disk Cleanup first then Optimize the SSD with the Windows built-in utility.
     
  23. SirDrexl

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    I believe you're thinking of garbage collection, not TRIM. They are related, but not the same thing. I would suggest reading this article about it: http://www.thessdreview.com/daily-n...ion-and-trim-in-ssds-explained-an-ssd-primer/

    Personally, I don't do any "cleaning" except for letting the defragmenter (Windows' built-in one, not a third-party program) do its thing on the storage HDD at the default setting of once weekly, and performing a secure erase and reformat of the OS SSD every 6 months. I tried to have defrag only do it every other week, but any time I've tried to change the default I get errors in Task Scheduler. I've never felt the need to use Registry cleaners.
     
  24. trott3r

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    Thanks for the article SirDrexl
     
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    I use Ccleaner once a month.
     
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