Introducing AX64 Time Machine - hybrid imaging/snapshot software

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Isso, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. manolito

    manolito Registered Member

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    Sorry, I do not understand. If Rollback is uninstalled, why would you want to do a RAW (aka sector by sector) backup? Any normal HOT or COLD backup will do in this case. :confused:


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  2. TheRollbackFrog

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    Sure... but the only time he can clean the surface as a prefice to future RBrx COLD imaging is to do this without RBrx installed. Otherwise his next RBrx snap will be HUUUUUUGE! Once this is done it lasts for quite a while.
     
  3. aigle

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    Thanks. Actually there was problems with boot disk/ USB in the past on XP and I used to restore an image via Acronis, install AX64 and then restore the latest snapshot. I just wanted to be sure if it's ok or not.
     
  4. beethoven

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    Once upon a time and going back a few thousand posts in this thread :isay: AX64 was intended to be simple. I suppose for the majority of users it may still be that way but nobody coming to this thread and following the recent posts will get that impression. While the suggestion has been raised before, why does the whole discussion on the product have to happen in one thread? How is a novice googling the product or being referred to this thread get his bearing - reading 8000 postings? A lot of issues are very specific and would be much better handled in their own threads. Given the activity on this thread, a forum dedicated to AX 64 is well overdue. Personally when I look for a product, I appreciate an active forum, involvement from the developer/company and some dedicated expert volunteers. You see that queries are being dealt with, the product is under development and if you run into some issues, someone will be around to offer assistance. This was clearly the impression at the beginning of this thread. I think this still holds true and many thanks to the efforts of Froggie, Peter and many others. However anyone coming fresh to this thread now will think the product is totally confusing, unreliable and only for the absolute geek who can work his way around the many inconsistencies. This is the total opposite of what Isso wanted to create and if I were Wajamus I would act before this becomes a place for beta testers and die-hard fans only.
     
  5. StevenG

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    Well said...

    Perhaps one thread for Beta testers where the real nitty gritty details are reviewed, and one for the current version which is mature and working.
     
  6. aigle

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    By the way, a nice surprise. TM recovery USB boots on my windows 8 tablet and touch screen works too. I never expected so. Only the resolution was not fully optimal but it was still acceptable.
     
  7. Peter2150

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    A request to split the thread was made a short time ago. It was discussed and it was decided not to split. So any discussion about this will go nowhere and is somewhat off topic.

    Pete
     
  8. beethoven

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    Sorry Pete, must have missed that post. Can you point me to where this was rejected or tell me the reasons for that?
     
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    i totally agree; while in v1 , i had a question or issue, i posted it here; Isso replied in few hours (if not minutes), issue/question solved or will be fixed in next release. Now not anymore.

    Now i am still able to follow the thread but any newcomers , i can say that with fact , will go away. I don't want blame Peter or Froggie , their discussion gives me a lot of infos; but Average Joe will flee for sure ^^

    i will really prefer a beta thread alongside a stable release thread. Beta for experts and enthusiasts of AXTM, stable for average Joe questions. it makes sense to me.

    Thanks.
     
  10. MaximumFish

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    Yeah me too. All this talk of Perfect Disk and other low level defrag programs, using multiple imaging/snapshot programs at once, whether cold restores do or do not work and under what conditions are sure to drive people away. For the average Joe who doesn't use all of these things and just wants a program that can be set to take backups and subsequently forgotten about TM seems to do the trick, or at least V1 does.

    A thread split just makes sense.
     
  11. bgoodman4

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    The request was made shortly after the new V2 beta was announced.
     
  12. bgoodman4

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    OK, rather pd off and frustrated. I just finished posting a rather lengthy description of a problem I am having and came back to update the results of an attempt to resolve it and my post is gone,,,,,,,%$#^%$

    Here is the short version of the problem

    1: took a snap before doing an MS update

    2: a few hours later decided to roll back to a snap between the MS update and the current state of the PC

    3: the hot restore completed and when I launched Opera my interface had changed somewhat.

    4: rolled back to before the MS update and tried to launch Opera but now I got an error message (see attachment), also was not able to launch xyplorer with my user defined settings etc.

    5: tried again to do a hot restore to an earlier time and this failed at 50%

    6: did a cold restore and it completed without issue but this did not resolve my problems.

    7: tried restoring to various other snaps, some hot some cold and none resolved the issues

    8: restored to the pre MS update snap and ran ckdsk

    9: after much activity, lots of deleted entries, orphaned files, etc etc, ckdsk finished and the PC booted. I could launch Opera but all bookmarks etc were missing. Tried launching xyplorer and it launched but also in a state as if it were a new install (all my user settings were gone. Also tried launching Lotus 123 (this is a critical app for me) and while it launched OK I was unable to open files contained in folder A (supposedly not supported) but had no problem open files from folder B.

    10: I then posted and asked for ideas as to what was going on. I also indicated that I was going to try another hot restore to the pre MS update snap in the hopes that now that ckdsk had done its thing all would be well.

    11: came back to this thread to update on the results of the hot restore to find my post had vanished.

    12: After the hot restore both Opera and xyplorer are not functioning again and I am having the same issue with 123 as noted above.

    Any ideas as to how I can resolve these problems and what may have caused them in the first place?

    I have an image created last Monday using Drive Cloner, should I try restoring with that? Should I do a factory reset and then try to do a restore using either AX64 or the DC image.

    I am running Win 7 Pro 64 bit
     

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  14. kennyboy

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    Totally agree with this, but as you can see, our wishes will be ignored as usual.
     
  15. bgoodman4

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    Crips I did at that. Thanks for clearing that up.

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    Update to the problems described above (and in the other thread):

    I decided that before I went back a week in time I would try a long shot. I restored to my last snap. The one taken around the time that I discovered my Opera interface had changed. A changed interface is better than no interface and I thought what the hey, I have nothing to lose. I ran a hot restore and at the end the PC began to boot. ckdsk wanted to run so with great apprehension I let it. Again lots of ckdsk activity and finally the PC booted. Much to my surprise Opera launched but with the modified user interface. xyplorer launches but it thinks its in trial mode (not a problem, I will input the license code) and to my delight it launched with all user defined attributes present. Also, all aspects of 123 seem to be working now.

    Too bizarre,,,,,any thoughts.

    Why did the Opera interface change? I have Opera set to only update with my permission. Is it possible the MS update caused this? Anyone else have this happen to them?

    Why did the restores back to earlier times all fail to address the problems,,,,or make them worse?

    I have been at this all night (its now 7 am local time) and I need to get some sleep. Will check in when I wake.
     
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    which version did you use?
     
  17. bgoodman4

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    Hummmm, all someone had to do was start a new thread. Anyone could have done that but no one did. Not sure who you are referring to as ignoring the request, certainly not the Wilders mod, its not up to him, and certainly not the devs. They have no authority here.

    So I will take the bit in my teeth and run with it.

    From here on out only AX64 version 1 issues to be discussed here. For all issues related to the V2 beta please go to the new beta thread at https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ax64-time-machine-version-2-beta.364451/

    Thank you.
     
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  19. Peter2150

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    It wasn't posted. Just no action taken at that time.
     
  20. StevenG

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    Can the posts from page 307 to 321 be moved to the new thread?

    Its really all V2 starting at that point, I think.
     
  21. guest

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    the new thread is locked since Wilders staff don't want a separated thread.
     
  22. silver0066

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    Why not?
     
  23. bgoodman4

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    Thats too bizarre, what could they possibly have against a 2nd thread. I understand that they did not want an AX64 board but 2 threads,,,,,and what about the other AX64 related threads which have existed without issue?
     
  24. Grumpa

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    It is all so frustrating. I have 4 versions of AXTM running on 4 different PCs. The reason? Simple (and a bit sad) at one time they produced a backup that I restored successfully.

    I think Isso - in the early days of AXTM development - set a high standard for himself and his "baby". To that end he was a regular and frequent participant in this Forum. He welcomed new ideas and hastened to correct problems. Isso chose to catalog user requests and bugs, and posted them online - we could see what he was fixing and influence what features we wanted him to consider or develop.

    Now that is all gone. I certainly don't know if any version I am using is good, or has lurking problems. I don't know what things in v2 are being corrected, eliminated, or modified. I don't know if any of the "old" feature requests are even being considered any longer. My emails to "support" go unanswered and unacknowledged.

    But worse of all, I don't know what I don't know.

    The discussion on this Forum is interesting and enlightening - but - besides the interested and curious, who else is listening?
     
  25. LowWaterMark

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    To let you know my thought process on the issue of splitting out versus continuing on in this thread...

    Monster threads work really well for us here. There are many of them on the forum, if you haven't noticed. The other anti-malware section has several running just like this one. They also index quite well in Google, which is another benefit.

    For product development threads, we like to focus the main support effort, when there is very active developer participation, into a single thread whenever possible. Since these threads typically have excessive growth rates, even a second thread would already be many pages long, and within a month, likely a second monstor thread.

    Since a direct link is possible to the v2 beta activity, which cleanly starts at the top of page 308, this link can easily be used by anyone "new" to this product:

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...rid-imaging-snapshot-software.339999/page-308

    That said, I do see that things are a bit different here with changes both in the company and the development approach. There appears to be some changes planned, from what I read here as for product name(?) and maybe company name(?), from the original AX64 branding. And if the staff is also changing(?), when v2 is actually released, I suspect it'll totally negate the foundation of this thread that Isso started last year. And then, v1 disappears from the world entirely(?).

    So, what I think we should do is wait until v2.0 goes from Beta to Release, and start a new thread with that. At that point, I imagine the massive development discussion post rate will terminate, and the product talk will move into a more casual "usage" based dialog. Also, I suspect whatever company, name, URL and whatever other possible changes are planned, will be fleshed out by then, as well.

    Requested by TheRollbackFrog: To make it easier to direct people to the v2 Beta, the first post in this thread has been modified to state that a beta is underway and the announcement link has been provided there.

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ax64-time-machine-software.339999/

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