Wow, MS SE really did good in this test!

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  1. ratchet

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    And Eset NOD32 in last place....30th.
    Based on these scores..and my experience with them both....much of the test must have comprised of many variants of roque/fake alerts.
     
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    Indeed place 30'th BUT it says NOD32v2 "v2" does it mean version 2 ?
    Then I wonder why they didn't test version 4 instead!
     
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    There is no such information given about what version of AV products they are using(except Nod v2). Don't know about this test whether to believe but Nod at 30th is quite difficult to digest:(
     
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    Yes there is AhnLab-V3 as well as Nod32v2.

    That's the only two Av's with the version number shown hmmm.
     
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    Having read the disclaimer and how the results are supposedly obtained, I rate this test as pathetic at best. The test should be read for comedic value only.
     
  8. nikanthpromod

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    im not getting missed logs!!!!

    its not showing what type of malwares are used:rolleyes:

    "Most Effective Antivirus Tools Against New Malware Binaries"
    "All antivirus binary analysis results are provided via www.virustotal.com"

    From wikipedia
    The antivirus programs used by VirusTotal have limited disassembling power, and VirusTotal does not execute the files for more comprehensive analyses.

    Antivirus utilities used do not provide 100% accurate results.

    I dont think this is a good comparison:doubt:
     
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    How come Ikarus scored more than A-squared?
     
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    Nice testing idea, check one hour after first submission to virus total.com

    What is surprising me is that they tested Ewido, which is quite some time taken over now (also link is unavailble). :D
     
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    I think Ewido as a stand alone was terminated at lease 4-5 years ago. It morphed into AVG Security Suite for a brief time after that. Makes me think something is very wrong with this testing group and these results.
     
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    I guess that we are not aware of how many PC's still have Ewido on it... And those guys know :) Nice to see that people always start fuming at a test when their favourite is not doing as they think it must....
     
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    SRI International, (made bot hunter) has and continues to churn out cutting edge projects and research. A very interesting group they have some engrossing papers to pull up on their site:thumb: .

    I wouldn't of thought ewido would still update, long dead. o_O
     
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    In one of the previous "tests", NOD32 scored low, too. However, after checking the appropriate files according to the published MD5, about 98-99% of actually functional samples were detected. Besides, using a 7-year old v2 in the test when there's already v4 with better detection ratio doesn't seem to me correct.
     
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    Hats off to MSE.:thumb:
     
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    Dear Marcos, in every test that I read of NOD at the moment in Dutch magazines or see on the internet Eset scores lower than most big names (under which I count Eset). With the AV and the IS.
     
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    You must have overlooked this test:
    http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/rap-index.xml
     
  19. Edwin024

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    Eset is just as good as Microsoft Security Essentials in this test. Have a look at the price difference. And MSE better in the AV comparatives test for malware removal. Nice, because that's most important besides detection.
     
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    I do agree that NOD32 at 30th is very questionable, since it has a reputation of being one of the best anti-malware softwares in the market.

    Congrats to MSE!
    MSE has received pretty rave reviews lately.. They finally got it right this time around :thumb:
     
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    Eset is superior in proactive detection in the RAP test. Eset also has a better result in the last two on-demand tests in AV-Comparatives.
     
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    This is NOT a "test".

    This HAS been discussed before.

    Every single AV here is using an ancient engine. Notice how Ikarus scored higher that a2? Notice how Webwasher scored lower than Avira? Notice how BitDefender scored higher that GData?

    If you think these results have ANY sort of validity you are living in a dream world.
     
  23. DjMaligno

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    Now this is simply stupid... and is deja-vu-ish as this has been said here several times. It is not only that they're using VT for testing, it is that they're not doing their work properly, as they're using a wrong parser and showing incorrect information. I guess they simply made that system and forgot to update it. I allways find it amusing how people don't care about looking a bit more inside things whenever a result fits their mind schemas.
     
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    That's right! But some of us need people like you (in orange) to chime in (Merry Christmas) and scold us for the nonsense. ;)
     
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    I didn't pretend to be harsh, but it is really frustrating to see this kind of things happenning again and again :/
     
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