Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

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  1. Rasheed our beloved and wise forum member who leads us through the challenges of choosing the best security software by testing and evaluating new releases in the tradition of the great classic Greek philosophers: by reading, thinking and imagining about it.

    Thanks for your sharing meaningful insights on Windows 10 TP :thumb:
     
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  2. ratchet

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    Well, just the 101MB unallocated. I'm rethinking how I want to do this. I formated the drive (E:), so W10 is gone for the moment. What if I make the entire drive (E:) virtual? Would that alleviate W10 from booting. I had the situation under control, where as long as W7 was the last system used, it would boot back into W7. For some reason it started to boot W10 every time, so I'd have to use the BIOS to get into W7.
    If I understand the "virtual" functionality, the drive would be a file. If I wanted to play with W10 I would just open the file but it could not have any adverse effects, e.g. booting into W10 at start up, correct? Thank you again!
     
  3. Brian K

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    You indicated you wanted to install Win10 in UEFI mode and you thought Win7 was in UEFI mode. I'm afraid neither are installed in UEFI mode as they are both in MBR mode. But there is nothing wrong with that. For what I do I prefer MBR mode.

    With independent OS you need to boot them with a Boot Manager or the BIOS Boot Menu.
     
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  5. ratchet

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    MS UEFI Secrure Boot is enabled in my motherboard and there is this: http://s4.postimg.org/opx57jsil/Screen_Shot_01_29_15_at_04_09_PM.png
     
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    I don't know what was so hard to understand about my last post? Instead of sounding sarcastic, you're sounding quite silly. It's just a fact that Win 10 doesn't bring any major new or important features. You don't have to run it, to come to that conclusion.
     
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    Well, I'm completely lost! I installed W7 several years ago so I can't refute it. All I know is what I see in the motherboard. It actually looks exactly like the ASUS image in the first link. Secure boot is enabled and the motherboard states that if Microsoft Secure Boot is enabled without UEFI the system won't boot!
     
  9. Brian K

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    The computer I'm using at present has UEFI firmware and Secure Boot enabled but I'm using Win8 in MBR mode. CSM allows this. I also have Win8 UEFI and Win10 UEFI images I can use. There are specific steps you must take when you install an OS in UEFI mode. I outlined them above but you didn't follow my instructions.
     
  10. Peter2150

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    Ah, but you are overlooking a couple of things. First it's far from release, so they are building on a base. The first build there wasn't that much new, but with build 9926, it is slowly evolving. And yes if you were to run it you would see the changes. I've got Windows 7, win8.1 and win 10 all built with VMware Workstation Version 11. There is a big difference as you step up the chain. I have to say I have gone from being a skeptic, to enjoying Windows 10 best of them all.
     
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    Like I already said, when it comes to stuff that I care about, I don't think anything has been changed. For more info, see the "Windows Annoyances" thread.
     
  12. ratchet

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    Since W7 is already installed and I'm on hold with W10 I didn't attempt an install!
     
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    I've just read a review of Win 10, it mentions these features:

    1 New start menu
    2 Ability to run Metro apps inside a window
    3 New search bar
    4 New Action Center
    5 New PC settings
    6 Cortana and IE 12
    7 New Windows Store

    Nothing to get excited about. I'm only a bit interested in IE 12.

    http://tweakers.net/reviews/3885/2/...ws-krijgt-vorm-startscherm-versie-zoveel.html
     
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    I think 10 has a way to go before the benefits will become apparent. It's not about a killer set of new features; more about integration across devices combined with improved security and performance. I believe Microsoft has acknowledged this in a way by offering it as a free upgrade to users of 7 and 8. Windows 7 will remain quite adequate on the desktop after 10 is released, but for folks with multiple devices 10 may be the better choice. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. At least we're getting flexibility from Microsoft this time around.
     
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    They've forgot to mention that you can use Ctrl+V in Cmd :)
    I'm testing it in virtualbox and must say that I really like it. If Spartan will be good I might even use it. I will almost certainly switch to 10, when it comes out.
     
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    i have never understood the differences between uefi and mbr mode
    i have an asus 8 months old , a new one , i have read some article about uefi
    but really i have never understood the different , can somebody make some example?
    i have w7 and w8 , how can i know if are uefi or not?

    thanks
     
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    mantra,

    At an admin command prompt type

    msinfo32

    and press Enter. System Summary selected. Check..

    BIOS Mode
    Secure Boot State

    Edit.. You can also tell by looking in Disk Management. Legacy (MBR) has an Active partition. UEFI has an EFI System partition.
    Diskpart will show a GPT disk for the boot drive as will Disk Management, Disk 0, Properties, Volumes.
     
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  18. mantra

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    i have tried with w7 , can not find bios mode :(
    i run msinfo32 from a
    searcg for bios , nothing ,i got bios version and other information but not bios mode
     
  19. Brian K

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    I ran it from Win8. Maybe Win7 is different. See my edits in the previous post.
     
  20. I guess you are joking about IE12 or can't imagine you completely missed that Win10 will ship with IE11 and Spartan?

    Besides several security improvements, Win10 offers a GUI which adapts itself depending on the mode chosen by the user to point-mouse or touch-finger friendly, is as revolutionary as the first hybrid car, using fuel and electronic as source of power.

    Win7 = fuel sourced car/point-mouse based GUI, Win8 = electronic sourced car/touch-finger based GUI, Win10 = hybrid car/adoptive user preference based GUI.

    Allthough most enterprises have implemented a BYO for smartphones, my guess is that a unified OS for all devices opens a seamless cloud integration future to business applications, e.g. sales people will have easier interconnection with the (M$) CRM from their smartphone and field engineers with the (M$) ERP system from their tablet or notebook. This unified OS could well be the "I will be back" grunt in corporate environments in regard to other endpoint devices integration (smartphones, tablets and notebooks), simply because it can be easier managed, controlled and secured by corporate system managers. Easy integration was allways M$ answer and alternative to a best of breed configuration.
     
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  21. mantra

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    Brian , may i ask you does w10 preview update?
    i mean if i install w10 will update in the future internally?
    thanks
     
  22. Brian K

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    Yes, it does.
     
  23. mantra

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    hi
    so if i install right now , i can update internally and buy it when will be official?
    thanks

    ps do you have w10 installed ? is it stable?
     
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    http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/...-fix-surface-pro-issues-windows-10-build-9926
     
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