Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

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  1. ronjor

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    http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-youve-got-questions-ive-got-answers/
     
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    No change in time zone but I do see an addition in credentials a virtualapp/didlogical user name and password that I don't recognize (solved). I am temped to just delete it or should I.
     
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    I spent the better part of the day yesterday doing this November "update" which is basically an upgrade. It took 3.5 hours. Afterwards, and even after 3 or 4 reboots, performance was in the toilet, about half what it was prior to the upgrade. If this is how they are going to update and enhance Win 10, then I'm done. That's it for me. I will stick with 7 for as long as it's good, and use Linux if necessary. I'm officially DWT (Done With Ten). ;) Upgrades have never worked out for me, something always suffers. There is basically nothing like a clean install, but I'll be darned if I'm going to clean install 10 every time MS wants to change something...
     
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    hi
    about to block windows udpdate to check drivers update ->there is no more -> Advanced System Settings. Hardware tab. Device Installation Settings. No, let me choose what to do.
    did you notice that ?
    but only apps and icons
     
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    Yes, this "update" is comparable to a full OS upgrade. Service packs and upgrades used to be taken more seriously, but now in 10 even full OS upgrades are offered in the same way as minor patches. Build 10586 failed the first time on one of my systems. Eventually I was able to get it installed by first removing all of my security software, unplugging peripherals and rolling back a disk controller driver. It's really hard to see how this is going to be viable for average users going forward. It is potentially a lot of pain for not much gain. For me build 10586 works well, but not noticeably better than 10240. At least when the update failed the system rolled back smoothly to the previous version.
     
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    hi
    sadly i delete it
    can i re-create it ?
    or is there a way to restore it ?
    i have an image prior the last w10 update,i guess it's different
    thanks
     
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    Exactly what I'm thinking too! This just isn't going to work for the "Average Joe". I am constantly amazed at the (for want of a better word) stupidity that keeps going on and coming out of Microsoft. It's unbelievable.

    You and I are used to doing clean installs and messing with our PCs, in fact, it's fun for us. But for the majority out there... Ain't gonna fly. :)

    I think I'm officially done with MS. I'm on Linux now and plan to stay on it. My next purchase will be an iMac most likely. It's sad, because I loved 7, but I can't even use that anymore without all the update questions and hassles, and the constant disk thrashing that goes on in Win in general.

    Sigh.....
     
  8. mantra

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    Brian , after updading with the usb stick , has your w10 found others updates available?
    thanks
     
  9. Brian K

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    Yes, three. Flash, a Cumulative update and a Defender one.
     
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    You have Pro, right? I wonder if that makes a difference? I had to change my Privacy settings after the upgrade on two Home Edition machines.

    Edit: Or perhaps you aren't so concerned about your privacy.
     
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    Yes I have Pro.

    I had changed almost all of the privacy settings :thumb:
     
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    4 PC's: 3 Win 10 Pro x64, 1 Win 10 Home x32:
    a) Update reset my privacy preferences to default.
    b) Update reset default apps and reinstalled apps removed by the user.
    :mad:
     
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    http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-app...d-business-features-in-windows-10-update.html
     
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    Im still dual booting linux with a reinstalled 7.Ive updated to where I want it to be,and just switched off windows updates.....Done the same with firefox too.I no longer worry about should I or should I not install the updates.Just get it to where your happy with it and be damned ;)
     
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    ellison64,

    I think that's a reasonable approach if you want to use Win7. Microsoft Updates for Win7 seem more likely to do damage than the potential damage from malware.

    On the other hand, you could use a better OS and not have to worry about choosing your Windows update.
     
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    I cant afford a mac :'(
     
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    Yes, I have considered doing that with 7, but recently other problems have surfaced which make 7 a 2nd choice now.

    On another note, I did decide to do a clean install this morning of the latest Win 10 1511 build/release, and so far it does seem good now. The slow/sluggish behavior I saw after my initial upgrade attempt is gone. I don't seem to have any luck with upgrades. But clean installs are usually good. So far so good. I don't mind doing a clean install once or twice a year, for me that's not a problem, but I do think it might be a big problem for a lot of "ordinary" users. We'll see I guess. Also, on a positive note, this clean install only took about 1 hour from start to finish, whereas previous clean installs usually took closer to 1.5 hours. They have cleaned up the process and it seems pretty nice now.

    I'll go with 10 for now and see how it goes. I do have Linux images that I can swap in on a moments notice if I want, so there's that for backup if needed. But for now, my initial frustration with the 10 upgrade process is gone.. IMO, clean install is the only way to go.
     
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    Kerodo,

    My upgrades have been good. Every time. I'm surprised because upgrades with earlier Windows caused problems.

    I just ran a clean 1511 UEFI install to an empty drive. The test computer has an i3 processor, 4 GB RAM and an SSD. From booting the Win10 UFD to the Win10 desktop took just under 10 minutes. That's fast for a basic machine.
     
  24. Kerodo

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    Yep, that's really fast. I'd love to have an SSD, but I don't think it's worth putting into a 6+ year old laptop here. My HD is probably a slow 5400. I have a core 2 duo cpu and 4 gb ram. It's a fairly weak machine, but I'm surprised how well Win 10 runs once everything is installed and settles in. I'm liking it again right now. :)
     
  25. Brian K

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    Kerodo,

    I'd put an SSD in that laptop. It should make a huge difference. I don't know how much data you have but a 128 GB SSD for $50 should be fine. That's inexpensive considering the performance gain.
     
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