I didn't have a problem after the upgrade but why do we always get a new partition? In a few years how many partitions would the average, non techie user have on their machines?
You are joking right? if not : - people with successful upgrades don't have to mention it; only the one with issue have to , expecting to get a solution. - Even here you have a thread with many people saying they upgraded successfully. do you post every time you successfully upgrade/install a softwares? i guess not.
Krusty13, Did you get another partition with 1607? I didn't but I got another one after 1511. It's easy to move the Recovery files into the main Win10 partition and then delete the new partition. If you want to.
Yep. 1511 was a clean install before 1607, which on both machines created a new partition on each. It was the same upgrading to November's update last year. (1511?) Maybe once the new partition is created we don't get another one but I do clean installs far too often to find that out.
Osaban, I'm sure it's the SSDs. One for the OS and another for the backup images. So when I restore an image it is SSD to SSD. Installing Win10 to an empty partition on the SSD is fast too. 10 minutes from Win10 on a UFD created by Rufus. Your download speed is much faster than mine. I have 20 Mbps.
Yes, I'd expect a Recovery partition with a clean install. As I mentioned, you can get rid of it if it bothers you. Or you can prevent it being created. To prevent it you would create a primary NTFS partition for the MBR (Legacy) Win10 install and set the partition Active. Then create 3 small dummy primary partitions which you can delete after the Win10 install. Now install Win10 into the Active NTFS partition. You can only have 4 primary partitions on a MBR disk so a Recovery partition will not be created. The Recovery files will be in the Win10 partition. I use BIBM to do this in its Unlimited Primary partition mode. In this mode you can set the MBR partition table to only have one primary partition slot rather than four. A Recovery partition won't be created.
Look what Win10 can run on. Granted, the Core2Duo has some punch, but that hard drive's gotta be PATA. The regular price "while supplies last" is $179. But loyal customers will often find substantial Promo Codes which brings this down to less than the cost of the OS itself. It's how I got a new in-the-box Dell i3-6100 4GB 1TB box for $294 last week, Pre-Labor Day $50 off and $105 Promo. Fry's Electronics, heroes to geeks since 1985.
I just Googled it and it's got a SATA hard drive. It's an 8 year old computer. I've installed Windows 10 on 9 and 10 year old laptops and it runs well.
I've just had the 1607 update notification show up via WU - but only on 1 PC so far... I'm thinking of blocking for a few more months with wushowhide What's the latest on 1607 - are there still good reasons to delay the update? For my config (NVT ERP, Sbie, WFC(Binisoft), EMET, ZAL+ZAM beta, Secunia PSI) I haven't found any compatibility issues posted & I don't have SSD drives..
I installed 1607 on all our computers on day one. Upgrade from a downloaded ISO. No problems at all. I like it.
i will tell my opinion, most broken updates of Win10 AU i saw were made by users directly upgrading via Windows Updates; their system is in some ways crippled by useless leftover or corrupted drivers and files from old program (or actual one). Most of the clean installs i witnessed don't have issues after (except from missing drivers). it is like repainting the wall of your room, you don't just put the new paint on top of the old one; you clean the wall first (of the old paint) then apply the new one. Things are same in computing.
You may use a program, but don’t think you know exactly all what Is under the hood, .. unless you’ve programmed it, and apart from what the developer written. Can you guess how many checks there are in a properly programmed software. We don’t consider all the procedures taking place in an OS upgrade. I doubt you’ll have a corrupted device driver carried over with an upgrade. We have two driver locations w/64bit systems, they are as shown; %SystemRoot%\System32\DRIVERS\ %SystemRoot%\SysWOW64\DRIVERS\ When Windows upgrades, I don’t believe It to be copying these resources, but are installing from scratch from the Windows Driver Store (\System32\DriverStore\, \SysWOW64\DriverStore\.) The Driver Stores contains all the driver packages. Windows OS upgrade installs all the device drivers from the ‘Driver Store’. One of the top things it’ll do is check the drivers have valid digital signatures. If there’s corruption, this package won’t be getting back installed. There we have the device driver files from the driver store being copied, and registry information being newly written. With OS upgrade, the devices registry information is rebuilt from scratch. ... That being said, I’ve upgraded many desktops, laptops, netbooks, tablets to Windows AU from previous version. Same thing applies to November or the initial Windows 10 release from one of the previous Windows. Very high success rate, for the first attempt. As for after the installs, Windows 10 working great.
I'm not against a Clean install. Clean install can be very convenient for some considering if they run into upgrading issues, caused by any of the countless reasons, but the underlining issue, OS upgrading. For many, I don't think Clean install is a viable method. People can have many different installs, many different customizations, not only with the third-party softwares and games but the various Windows customizations. I have all sorts of stuff installed, and all sorts of customizations, with third-party programs, with Windows. I don't want to forget stuff like Emails, Internet favourites, documents, downloads, pictures, music, videos and the list goes on an on. I'm very particular person, and I have many itches. My customizations are many, and sure, I know how to re-do them. I should have a program built to automatically handle this scenario, but, never the time or motivation. If I'm intimidated, and I know how to re-do my many. How can you easily recommend Clean install on those who can't even remember their passwords. These the people who will be spending hours, hours trying to get everything back to right, they might have overlooked emails, or documents or apps and games configurations and saves. .. just saying a Clean install isn't always right procedure for different ones. It can end up being more of a headache and time waster and unnecessary.
About clean install, recently done one. It was funny, Windows 10 AU kept asking for media device driver before installation. I was wasn't in the mood to mess looking for a compatible driver, just went ahead and done clean install from USB flash. In Windows, Windows Device Manager shown everything to be installed and working properly. No DVD drive in File Explorer, and no DVD/CD drives category in Windows Device Manager list. I've found the entry, under Disk Drives category. Shown installed and working, blah! BS! lol The PC manufacturer didn't support newer Windows, struck out there. Removing and reinstalling was another miss. Force checking for device driver updates via Device Manager was another miss. I succeeded, but I wished I would have tackled this job some other day. LOL!
OK - you'll have to excuse my ignorance... I just installed Win10 in July and I knew the AU was coming, but I didn't realize the 'major update' frenzy was going to continue every 4 months indefinately - I assumed the cycle time would increase to over a year at least... so 2 more questions How well are settings preserved when upgrading thru WU? there's no way i'd do a clean install that often & definitely not on all my friends/families PCs How long is each release supported with security updates? The Technet summary I read thru implied that security updates would only be done until the next major release, but that doesn't make sense since it looks like the the "business" branch is getting the upgrades 4 months later. So MS must still be patching at least another 4 months... If settings aren't preserved (as much as possible) then, as long as I'm still getting security updates, I'd rather just upgrade annually or even less
Either my math is wrong, or it's yours. Initial public release was the 29th of July, of last year. Then early November we had another public release. Following was the August 2nd, Windows 10 Anniversary update. Where's this "'major update' frenzy every 4 months indefinitely" stuff coming from?
To answer a question; choosing to upgrade, selecting ' Keep personal files and apps '. Everything from software installs, and it's configurations to Windows and mostly all its customizations are carried over. There's some computers, that had System Restore enabled previous to ' major update ', but afterwards the System Restore was found disabled. It would be best to check that after major updates.
the schedules I saw posted on technet & elsewhere list upgrades for approximately August 1, December 1 and April 1. April was skipped this year, but as far as I can see it's still a standard release date in the future... But, maybe I'm interpreting it wrong - feel free to correct me if someone knows otherwise.
great thanks - I assumed the files/apps were good it's the windows settings I was concerned about so good to hear they're preserved. I assume I'll need to run CCleaner again though to remove all the 'store' Apps - i can live with that... Thanks, I noticed this on all the upgrades I did through WU from Win7/8.1 as well
Well, this link shows the original release is still getting updates so I guess 1511 will be good for a while yet https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/12387/windows-10-update-history
I've been running the AU now for a while on my new HDD and I must say, I am really impressed with what they've done. I see many improvements, some subtle and some more obvious, and I like what they're doing now. I have had zero issues with the AU ever since I installed the new HDD. Just updated with September updates and no problems at all. I'm liking 10 a lot. They have gotten rid of some of the things that used to annoy me quite a bit.
I have asked this before but I don't think I ever got a response. On my primary laptop, after reverting from a failed AU install to a prior 1511 image, I hid the AU 1607 feature update via wushowhide, confirmed it was hidden, but later it didn't show under hidden updates anymore i.e. it was 'gone'. I think it did immediately try and reinstall, as it does show as 'Failed to install' on 10 August in my WU history. I haven't been offered this update again, and continue to get cumulative and other updates for 1511. I see MS is even still providing updates for the initial build: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12387/windows-10-update-history Anyone else experiencing this? Has MS 'pulled' the AU update for systems like mine due to incompatibility, is that how 'it' works ? Will AU pop up again in the future?
That high disk usage on 1511 I spoke of earlier is Winupdate when it's doing its scheduled check. Not really a deal breaker, but I don't think it should spike the disk so high like that. When I check update manually it doesn't do that.
