why doesn't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

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  1. hex_614

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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

    im not saying that those software that uses heuristic are the best. im just stating that other products uses heuristic and that lacks avast. but i did not say that its better. just as i said avast explained that heuristic is plain guessing only. why bothering too much? are you trying to prove something? then create your own post
     
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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?


    I agree 100% with you on this, the technology used to achieve the detection is irrelvant to some extent, the bottom line is the detection itself. Not how but that it happens effectively. I think a further point to this is not only detection rates but also the ability for a technology to efficiently and thoroughly remove anything that gets detected after some damage to files has occured. This is a good thread and I am enjoying it.
     
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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

    All I know is that Avast does very well at Shadowserver.Org on detecting zero day malware. I don't know which technology, but it works whatever it is. IMO, what Shadowserver is doing is more relevant than proactive testing with intentionally out of date signature files. After all, we don't run out of date signature files.
     
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  5. Bunkhouse Buck

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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

    Avast doing well? I don't think so. On a yearly basis (large sample size) they are dead last and a disgrace compared to Avira and several others.

    http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Stats.VirusYearlyStats
     
    Bunkhouse Buck, Jul 29, 2008
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  6. lodore

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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

    oh god not test results again....
    cmon avast is on there twice, that seems strange in itself.
     
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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

    If Kaspersky was better than middle of the pack mediocre, you might like the test results?
     
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  8. doktornotor

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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

    Yeah, one is the commercial version and the other is free, as clearly stated there. The 70 % pt. margin between them makes me wonder WTH are they ripping of the free one... :mad:
     
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    According to Alwil website, the only difference between commercial/free would be script blocker and that shouldn't make any difference in detection percentages. Suspicious indeed. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. saberfox

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    The facts do not matter. The truth that Shadowserver is a shoddily-performed unscientific test is insignificant and should be ignored. As long as Avira continues to make other products look like a disgrace, that is more than enough for some people to blindly accept the test at face value and denounce the unbelievers for their "jealousy".
     
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  11. lodore

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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

    BS
    avast home and pro both have the same detection rate.
    the low scoring avast could be a linux version. i think someone from avast should find out.
     
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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

    Yeah, and KAV has a detection rate as well... And echo command as well has a detection rate - 0% that is. Thanks for the valuable contribution... :p :rolleyes:
     
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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

    Would you still consider shadowserver as reliable if Avira would'nt be at top5?
     
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  14. lodore

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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

    dont go off topic.
    im discussing the thread subject which is avast and proactive detection.the fact that avastis on the list twice makes me think twice about the credibility of the test.
     
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    Avast Pro and Free uses same engine just like Avira.
     
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  17. Saraceno

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    Re: why doens't avast use advanced heuristic detection engine yet?

    Lodore is right. I posted info on this previously.
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1261320#post1261320

    Shadowserver is using a linux version of avast which has lower detection capabilities than avast! Home or Professional.

    Shadowserver is also using Kaspersky Anti-Virus for File Server, version 5.5.18, and not the most recent version many users are using here.

    :)
     
    Saraceno, Jul 30, 2008
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  18. carioca

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    hi, buddies,
    what about the threatfire, drivesentry, geswall (freeware), spyware terminator and ssm (system safety monitor) because I read good opinions abouth them? I meant in order to furnish extra protections to the avast av scanner due to lack of heuristics scan at the moment ( avast 5.0 will have proactive protection).they have stated they protect very well te pc against threats and malwares and they supply what a regular antivirus doesn't make. are they a good combination with avast and superantispyware? could you give to us your hints and experience about hardening it? I mean something with low resources not to get your pc a tortoise to harden it. best regards.

    :cool:
     
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    Your inquiries deserve its own thread ;)
     
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    Yes it does indeed.
     
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