Whither Testing PrevX ??

Note that the Checkmark Certification tests for Symantec in 2009 were for the corporate Endpoint Protection product, not for the consumer Norton Internet Security/Norton AntiVirus/Norton 360 product. My understanding is that the corporate product uses the same scanning engine, but it lacks the reputation-based intelligence (e.g., Download Insight) and heuristics (SONAR2) found in the consumer version.

PrevxHelp, it is correct to assume that the Checkmark Certification is the test about which Prevx will issue its next press release?

P.S.: Congratulations to Prevx on earning the Checkmark Certification!

 

Yes, that would be a safe assumption to make

Thank you!

 

The press release has now been issued:

Congratulations to Prevx!

 

Congratulations to Prevx on achieving The West Coast Labs Checkmark Platinum Product Award of Prevx 3.0 Lets see what you can do with Prevx 4.0 when you start working on it! Also you have to put the logo on your home webpage!

TH

 

kudos to that. Prevx, very impressive.

 

That's an awesome press release. The Platinum Product Award has a nice ring to it. I knew there was a reason why I liked Prevx!

 

Although exuberance by a CEO is understandable and forgivable, one statement in the press release by Mel Morris seems excessive: “The size, speed and range of capabilities offered by our Prevx 3.0 agent technology ... is unmatched.” Logically, the veracity of Mr. Morris' statement is not supported by the receipt of the West Coast Labs Checkmark Certification, since the certification does not contrast the size, speed or range of capabilities of Prevx to any of its competitors.

Hopefully, Prevx will soon participate in one of the well-respected industry anti-virus comparatives (e.g., AV-Comparatives, AV-Test) in order to allow users to objectively understand the product’s strengths and weaknesses as compared to its competitors. Until that time, such comparative statements by Prevx (including the website claim of being the “world's strongest, fastest, most powerful security solution”) remain purely speculative, to the best of my knowledge.

 

@ Pleonasm I like hearing your Conspiracy Theories as always!

TH

 

I'm trying to imagine the great sigh of relief emanating from Morris' office when he gets word that Pleonasm understands and forgives him.

 

Congratulations Prevx!

 

If you reread my post, you’ll see that I am making no negative comments about Prevx whatsoever. I am simply acknowledging my own ignorance: namely, I am unaware of any independent, objective rationale for supporting these two assertions by Prevx:

1. “The size, speed and range of capabilities offered by our Prevx 3.0 agent technology ... is unmatched”
2. “world's strongest, fastest, most powerful security solution”

Are you equally as ignorant as me about these two statements? If not, then please share your knowledge. Otherwise, I'll assume that we are in agreement.

 

Worthy of a good chuckle! I was, however, hoping for a reply that contains a hint of substance....

In all seriousness, it’s obviously reasonable to assume that Mr. Morris is highly intelligent and logical. Therefore, there must be some basis for his belief that “The size, speed and range of capabilities offered by our Prevx 3.0 agent technology ... is unmatched.” In other words, I believe that he believes that his statement is accurate and true. My question is simple: what is the foundation for that belief? Does it have any basis whatsoever in reality -- or, is it simply unsupported, hollow marketing pabulum for the hoi polloi?

My question is completely reasonable -- and, it remains completely unanswered.

 

well, we shall see if those so-called 'respected' av testers have improved, as all their past tests have been scrutinized due to public new information posted on the VB website, which some people had questioned for years.

all past results from these testers have been a joke & they shouldn't have been allowed to publish such rubbish for years!

, so we shall see if their new methods during their dynamic tests are 'proper'

 

Have you ever taken a moment to understand that your obsessive reliance upon proof and reasonableness and accurate statements, while sounding quite lawyer-like, does not in and of itself define substantiveness, and that a joke at your expense contains as much substance, truth and fact as any sliver of evidence that you have ever scurried about trying to uncover?

Why do you keep at this, Pleonasm?
Are you intent upon saving us all from ourselves?
Do you believe that you have some special information that most of us don't, and you are here to impart that wisdom upon us?
Haven't you in fact already imparted the bulk of that special knowledge upon us, time and time again, and have now begun to sound RainMan-ish in your "hollow marketing" rants?
Do you hope that your diligent work as an exposer will create a consumer backlash, and Prevx's sales will suffer because of your righteousness and (barely suppressed) indignation?

The way I see it, Pleonasm, you are little more than a Prevx troll.
I say "little more", of course, because in addition to the above, you are also a Symantec pimp.

 

Well said Page! Like I said it's a Conspiracy Theory

Cheers,

TH

 

What are you referencing on the Virus Bulletin website? Can you please be more specific and provide a link? (Thanks.)

I agree that a healthy dose of skepticism is always wise when reviewing test results. Yet, organizations like AV-Comparatives and AV-Test seem to have respected reputations in the industry for excellence and impartiality.

I encourage Prevx to participate in one of their whole-product dynamic tests and, as I have said many times in other threads, I suspect that Prevx would perform “well” in these comparisons. How well, however, is unknown -- to you, to me, and to everyone who is interested in an objective assessment of the protection provided by Prevx.

 

Actually, I believe the opposite: it appears that I have a level of ignorance that most of you don’t. As I said previously, “I am simply acknowledging my own ignorance: namely, I am unaware of any independent, objective rationale” for Pervx’s claims. If you care to share your own “special information” to lessen my ignorance, that step would (sincerely) be most welcome.

What? I wish Prevx well, and hope the company spurs competition through its innovations. More competition eventually benefits all users.

Hey, Page42 -- that’s hardly a fair and balanced comment. I will, however, refrain from emulating your disappointing communication style, and will stay focused on substance in my comments.

Let’s review. Prevx is making very bold statements about being the “world’s best” and being “unmatched.” They may in fact be right -- as I have said, none of us really knows. Presumably, the company has some rationale, some basis, some foundation underlying these assertions. I think it is very reasonable to respectfully ask for those perspectives, is it not?

In the meantime, I think (?) we can agree to simply dismiss these claims by Prevx as marketing hyperbole.

 

Soooo funny! It's called "Marketing"! c.f. Firefox: "The Firefox Web Browser is the faster, more secure, and fully customizable way to surf the web.".....faster? Noooo...second slowest of the big guns. More secure?....Noooo...not according to published analysis. Just marketing Pleonasm, every company does it.

 

I think this award is a proof that not all is a marketing hype and that the product works to the standards required. Congratulations in any case !

 

@ Pleonasm: Do you use Prevx at all? Well I have been using it since 2005 and mostly in the past year with the introduction of Prevx 3.0 as it runs very well with NOD32! I always like the layered approach without HIPS and I feel very safe! As to Prevx and there "Marketing" everyone does something that we don't like to hear but they do! It would be like me saying that I have the fastest computer on earth (I wish) but I would like to know if you do use Prevx and your comments about the program and the excellent customer support from here on the forums and from there customer support inbox which to me is the best that I ever have seen and hope they continue on that road as we will see for the future!

Cheers,

TH

 

joe - you mentioned there were a few tests prevx had entered into, west coast labs is just one... have i missed something?

 

Yes it would be nice to see Prevx 3.0.5 tested some how and somewhere

TH

 

Given the absence of any information to the contrary provided by readers of this thread, I think you’re probably right -- these statements by Prevx might be “just marketing.”

Unlike the quote about Firefox in which the product claims to be “faster,” Prevx claims to be the “world’s fastest”; and, unlike Firefox’s claim that the product is “more secure,” Prevx claims to be the “world’s most powerful security solution.” It’s one thing to say your product is “better” than others -- that’s commonplace, as you noted; it’s entirely different to claim that your product is the absolute “world’s best,” however.

At the risk of being repetitive, I will say again that Prevx’s claims of being the "world’s best" may in fact be completely accurate. But, it appears that no one knows the extent to which those claims may be true -- or, if they are "just marketing."

 

I do not use Prevx -- and, you may not believe me, but I would actually like to use Prevx in a layered approach if the company improved its privacy policy and practices (but that’s a subject for another thread).

Based on what I have read here in the Wilders’ forums, I certainly do agree that the customer support and responsiveness demonstrated by Prevx may be the best in the industry.

We agree! As I stated previously, I suspect that Prevx really would do well in a comparative analysis -- but none of us knows, at this time, how well it would fare against the competition. Such an independent assessment of the performance of Prevx might allow the company to substantiate the “world’s best” and “unmatched” claims under discussion here.

Best wishes,
Pleonasm