Vista is coming,Do we need AVs to the end?

yes
for instance,some APIs can be used by good ways or bad ways

 

Hello,

I don't know why people refer to Vista as secure. Its security concept is based on clicking twice for everything you want done.

As to needing AV, you don't need one even now, using XP or alike. You can get along very nicely without AV. In the last 5 years, how many times did you have AV ring a warning (excluding on-purpose testing)? It's nice to have, but it won't keep you safe from yourself.

Mrk

 

I agree with mrkvonic. In my two years of pc usage i haven't found a single Virus infection. I am a safe surfer and do not click on everything. I am guessing that most people with virus infection on their pc is due to their own mistake than a particular antivirus.Either the antivirus is not updated or not on. Now a days more trojans are discovered on PC than viruses but detecting a trojan is tricky specially in this internet based sofware age.I think, Trojan infection are more directed toward a particular user rather than large number of people. I assume that a internet surfing with common sense provides more security than using more and more reduntant security programs.

 

I've got NAV set up to silently delete any suspect email, so I do not see the warnings, but there are some in the logs.

I've seen messages about attempted worm instrusions. I think there were two in the past year.

Of course, I do not know how many were actually false postives.

But it is not the frequency that matters.
The cost of recovering from even one infection can be huge.

 

Hello,
The cost can be one imaging software and / or few hours of reinstall.
Mrk

 

If and only if you know exactly when the infection occurred.
More often, a malware will lurk and suddenly/gradually do increasing damage.
The cost of correction can be enormous.

 

I agreed with you,so i will keep my AVs resident in my PC

 

Hello,
Here you assume that your AV will be able to detect an infection and continue working with the infection present. Which might or might not happen.
Mrk

 

Yes, and assuming that any AV will catch all malware is also not true.

 

Hello,
I'm not. That's one of the reasons why I think you can happily live without AV. Combined with the fact that I have never seen a chance AV detection of a virus - excluding deliberate testings - one can safely assume that you don't need one. Like a Ferrari. It's nice to have, but not a must.
Mrk

 

"For Bill Gates so loathed The World that gave his lastly-begotten Vista unto the end that all who believe in Microsoft should not perish, but have eternally infected PCs ..."

John 3:14 SP2 90210

 

continue working with the infection present,what is it?

 

there's a podcast here which tells you about vista security and if you'll need an AV. - Episode #66
http://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm

 

Hello,
Please elaborate, I don't understand.
Mrk

 

Rubbish.

 

we don't need any of antivirus anymore....BECAUSE WE NEED MR.GATES!!!

 

Your view is too illiberal to trust

 

OK, the news came out faster than I imagine.

Virus has landed Vista.

From http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=printArticleBasic&articleId=9005542

Remember, virus (a bad name which may cnfuse the average Joe) is after all just a program, but it is a program for malicious purposes. The same code may be used in good ways and bad ways. That is one of the reasons why it is so hard to eliminate all malware. Security experts are always lagging behind.

Previously when virus was used to be non-existent (no idiot writing such a program), the system and we used to trust everything the program does (a completely whitelist approach). What Widnows Vista trying to do is to place roadblocks on the important areas. We no longer trust every rpogram to do good things. They need to ask for our permissions when it tries to modify something. That is what we can do to distinguish between the good and the bad. However the knwoledge is one of the issues, and average Joe tend to answer wrongly more than 50% of the time.