Unusual Collection of Security Softwares

Arovax Shield is freeware, and have a blacklist to block cookies...

Ghost Security Suite should be added to the list...

 

No suites my friend

But still .. those two applications (RegDefend & Appdefend) separated as two different pgrm's would be better after all cause forget about mem usage (and those two proggies do not consume cpu power either ..) if you have at least 2*512mb of DDR ram. that's my opinion .. if in a suite is one bad component, then the chances are your system still get corrupt/infected/..

Therefor I will always see for different applications rather then a suite (albeit KIS2006 being rather appealing )

cheers,

 

Whenever anyone makes a final selection, great possibilities are ruled out, that's OK. However, this thread essentially focuses on how an end goal is realized, not the objective itself. Items are ruled in or out based on how they achieve their function, be it blacklisting via signatures, as a suite of modules, and so on. That generally is not the best way to proceed.

Blue

 

For me, the crucial question is, What do you feel you need to be protected against? That is, what specific types of threats do you think might occur between these reboots?

Your first statement is too general: virus, for instance. Via email? Via remote code execution? Without thinking through how this stuff becomes installed in the first place puts you at the mercy of the security products companies and media that exploit the fear generated by these terms, virus, spyware, etc.

When you have thought through the various scenarios you think you might be exposed to, and the probabilities of their occurrence, then you will be in a better situation to think about what types of protection you need.

 

Excellent. Very well said. Some seem to feel a need to protect themselves against every possible scenario. This is a mistake. In sports and warfare planning against every possible attack is the kiss of death. In fact, it's impossible to accomplish in the real world and it's impossible within the world of computer security. So, really, Rmus said it all above.

---securityx---

 

Well, it's pretty much impossible to protect any computer against any possible scenario; protection against an organization of skilled attackers with money and time resources who have (or can gain) physical access to the machine? I doubt any single individual here in this forum (or in any other forum) can accomplish it. The keyword here is 'plausible'.

 

You are right, but nothing is decided yet. I'm just fishing.

My problem is that I don't know all the ways of getting infected., because I'm a newbie in security.

1. If I use a router in combination with a firewall, I'm safer, but don't ask me WHY I'm safer and against WHAT I'm protected, because I couldn't give an answer.
What is even worse, I don't know which malwares are able to pass through my router and firewall.

2. If I use Firefox with AdBlock and NoScript, no java, I'm safer, but don't ask me WHY I'm safer and against WHAT I'm protected, because I couldn't give an answer.
What is even worse, I don't know which malwares are able to pass through my browser.

3. If I ignore and delete my spam-emails, I know, I won't get any infections this way.
That's one thing, I'm pretty sure about.

4. If any private info is stolen, I wouldn't care because that info will be unreadable (encryption).
That is another thing, I'm pretty sure about. Why? Because I exclude the majority of the bad guys, who aren't smart enough to break my encrypted files and the brilliant bad guys have better things to do.

5. If I reboot (with SU), I know at least one thing : I'm CLEAN again.
That's the one, I like the most, because that's the one that makes me feel really safe, much more safer than all my scanners, telling me "Congratulations. No threats found."
If I reboot twice a day, in the morning and around noon, I feel much safer and I use the word "feel", because security is nothing but a feeling and the stronger that feeling is, the happier I'm.

6. What else can I do or which smart softwares can I use to protect me against the rest of the malwares ?
I don't know the answers. Do you know the answers ?

My main concern are the destructive malwares. Malwares that are able to destroy my personal partition, where all my hard work is stored.
The only good weapon I have against this, is a DAILY image backup of my personal partition on an external harddisk.
If I talk about this at Wilders, members tell me that most malwares are NOT destructive and I'm willing to believe that because the bad guys, don't kill the goose with the golden eggs.
If I was a gifted bad guy, I wouldn't destroy people's computer either. On the contrary, I would keep their computer healthy and write very silent, invisible, not-disturbing malwares, that are able to steal their money and valuable info
over and over again.

But destructive malwares do exist, but I never met them during all these years.

 

I don't know anyone who does.

In my opinion, you have a good grasp of your own situation and are well covered.

I would quit worrying about it and enjoy your computing and surfing on your new system!

 

Great posts by TNT, Securityx, Rmus.

It's common sense sure, and not as sexy as babbling about zero day exploits, rootkits and whatnot, but very important advise no doubt.

 

That's why I overwrite the zero day exploits, rootkits, invisible advanced malwares, ... with a CLEAN reboot/snapshot one or two times a day.
I figured that out myself one year ago when I heared the very first time about ShadowUser at SWI.

I know, it's an imaginary security setup and snapshots, including image backups on an external harddisk can be seriously infected by some imaginary threat, written by some imaginary genius.
And I offer my apologizes to those who strongly believe in scanners and HIPS and don't want any changes.
I admit I was wrong, etc., but ShadowUser is still my choice and let us all hope I was wrong.

 

Actually you *plan to* , let's be clear.

Aren't you a clever one! The world must have being waiting for your genius to grace our security forums. Use backups! Damn, we must all be so stupid not to see it before you pointed it out. That solves all our security problems...

Time for all our security experts to retire then. Erikalbert has licked all our problems... LOL

Well personally I have outgrown the children's game of "Let's pretend" , but I understand some adults still feel the need to engage in chilidsh wishful fantasies even one lasting over 3 years...

If you ask me, i don't really see the difference between people worrying about all these advanced scary stuff, and people who *used* to worry about them but doesn't any more because he now thinks he has found the 100% solution for it.

Espically since what he is banking on is a technology he hasn't used , much less understand.

Just flip sides of the same coin.

Erik loves to sneer at people who put faith in antiviruses, or HIPS to defend themselves against 'advanced malware'. I say it makes as much sense to sneer at people who think SU provides 100% protection against "Advanced malware" (not to mention one who doesn't even have personal experience in SU).

All you have is your faith it will.... Who knows?

 

Huh, this absolute faith on ShadowUser is, if anything, amusing. I have no idea where it comes from. I've seen people believing Deep Freeze to be 'unbreakable' as well a year ago or something, and nowadays it seems Faronics just can't get Emiliano Scavuzzo from "breaking" it (in fact, it seems that they actually gave up and got into legal action against him for "reverse engineering" the product, which is really somewhat pathetic on their part). I have no idea why you're so convinced that ShadowUser, on the other hand, is "unbreakable".

 

TNT,
I never said ShadowUser is unbreakable. ALL softwares are breakable without any exception, even the snapshots of FD-ISR and Rollback Rx, which have also many fans at Wilders.
I'm not a fan of anything and I'm too skeptical to trust anything.
When the time is there, I will try them one by one and make my final choice.
Until now ShadowUser gets my vote and not because it's unbreakable.

 

I'm not sure of anything until I have tried it in practice.
Until now my opinion is based on readings about these products and once I've tried the main ones, including FDISR, Rollback, DeepFreeze, ShadowUser, etc., I will make my final choice.
It's not my fault that everybody thinks that I'm obsessed by SU and without using it.

ShadowUser is your 3rd choice, well that is your opinion and doesn't need to be mine.
I don't even know my choice, because I didn't try anything and I had alot of bad luck lately, which kept me away from doing my experiments.
Moving to another apartment, a new apartment with some hidden problems, which caused other problems, and now my computer vendor suddenly decided to re-decorate his shop, shop closed and I have to wait longer for the components, I still need.
Meanwhile I keep on reading and asking questions at Wilders.

I prefer to choose softwares myself and not on what other members are telling me.
Every new software looks strange in the beginning and some people like it on first sight and others don't.
The more they don't like the software, the faster they will give up on trying it.
I have that trouble too and sometimes I have to force myself to remain objective.

One thing I know : you don't separate your OS from your personal files, which is one of the recommendations of SU and by doing this you get a total different situation.
So even when you tried SU, you didn't do it like I will and there is no proof whatsoever, that SU failed and of course it will fail one day. Isn't that common for all softwares ?
The fact that SU has a bad support is indeed a disadvantage, but I also have read posts where people got a reply from ShadowStor.
Maybe I get a reply, when I start my email with praising their product into heaven instead of asking annoying questions. Who knows.

Member "Spy1" also uses SU without separating his OS from personal files and he likes SU.
Now what is the difference between you and Spy1. Do I have to listen to both with a contradictional opinion about SU ? Who is right, who is wrong.
~snip~, I would become insane, if I would do this.
My PC is too small, if I would listen to everybody's advice and each member is convinced he is right and is trying to tell me what to use or to do.
Sometimes I listen, sometimes not.

 

It is a good feeling to have a PC, that can not get infected and that a user can visit any website withou worries (not talking about hacking of course). The problem is, that with such a high security settings, some websites even do not load, so the PC is useless for a common user. There are not many people, who could not survive without a flash, scripts or whatever.