UltimateDefrag 2008 (very nice)

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  1. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    it has not a boot defrag , i mean UD it has not
     
  2. Long View

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    Now I'm worried. I bought the old version to play with and then went back to PD. Now that I have the free upgrade to 2008 I'm finding the consolidate option incredibly slow -- much much slower than the old version - been stuck on 5% for an hour. I see that mantra has had problems with consolidate. anyone else had problems ? any ideas why the old version worked but the new might be slower ?
    all I'm getting is more yellow moving blocks but no movement. Progress reports that it is moving files but my guess it is just in a dumb loop.
     
  3. mantra

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    to me it doesn't block
    it continues to move the metadata , non stop
     
  4. bman412

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    Question about UD...

    Which files are needed to be placed on the outermost of the hd for faster boot up?
     
  5. Huupi

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    Simple, in general files which are most used for your specific configuration,in my case,Photoshop and archive aplications.

    admit that because its very user configurable,it take some learning to get your disklayout the best possible,helpfull is thorough documentation,it explains anything about disks not only defragging. ;)
     
  6. bman412

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    Thanks Huupi :D
    Should have known to read the documentation. So basically for faster boot ups, Respect layout.ini option should be ticked as well as Strict placement :thumb:
     
  7. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    this forum is biased!
    why dont they ever say:

    use 'this option' for a faster performing machine?

    anyone know what option that would be?

    also, is it safe to use with programs such as FDISR and RollbackRX?
     
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  8. mantra

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    enable repesp layount.ini
     
  9. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    this forum is biased!
    nobody?

    also, where is the MFT settings in options > tools?

    it said in the help file, they should be in there..... but i cant see them.

    also, ive got 14% fragmentation that i cant seem to remove, ive ran all of the different ones on UD, what am i doing wrong?
     
  10. mantra

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    by the way is there a perfect disk 2008 portable version?
     
  11. markymoo

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    is everybody in agreement this is better than PerfectDisk 2008?
     
  12. mantra

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    theoretically yes , because you can setup and tweak almost every thing

    but Ultimatedefrag is buggy
    what i don't like about perfect disk is that i can't setup how ultimate d.
     
  13. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    this forum is biased!
    are people just ignoring my questions? :blink:

    ive managed to get it down to 14% fragmented, but why cant i get the rest?

    its really frustrating to recommend a program that keeps me 14% fragmented, if the program acknowledges that percentage as fragmented, it SHOULD fix it.
     
  14. MaB69

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    Hi Chris,

    Never try to defragment with a third party progs a partition protected by RBX or its clone
    You have to use the inbuilt defragmenter or uninstall RBX before

    Regards,

    MaB
     
  15. markymoo

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    click on Auto down the left and click Options then MFT is available.
     
  16. DVD+R

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    I'll answer this as much as I know. I've used it vigourously with FDISR and I've been able to boot to any snapshot,so as far as I know its safe to use, One minor thing though, I watched it defrag and it said Moving $ISRBIN and C:\$ISR\0 whatever that meant but it took a few minutes to do so,and while it was moving it said defrag time remaining estimate 3hrs then suddenly it whizzed into life and defragged in 9-10 minutes. Now the ? is what was in doing to FDISR :blink: hope it doesnt bugger it up sooner or later :ninja: As for Rollback, I defrag the life out of my drive so its 0.00% fragmented then install Rollback and then just use the Rollback snapshot defrag it works fast enough.
     
  17. DVD+R

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    In the settings enable the last defrag option, cant remember what it says as I just reformatted and yet to install my major stuff, but it says something like placement ? anyway its in the settings and its the last one in defrag settings
     
  18. Dark Shadow

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    Me to I see nothing.:cool:
     
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    Ah ok,I see it know Thanks a bunch.
     
  21. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    people are getting confused, I removed rollback and all its snapshots, the defragging is much faster, but I'm still left with a 12% fragmented harddrive.
     
  22. sukarof

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    I am a bit confused about this defragging business.

    I barely defrag but I decided to revisit UD. I have this E drive where I keep all my backup images (Shadowprotect and FDISR archives) and movie files.
    I did a analysis and it showed a whopping 74% fragmentation :eek:
    So I let UD do a defrag where it would put the backup folders to the center of the disk, which was empty according to UD. Maybe that particular defrag option is by default very slow but after 3 hours where I could see that it was moving stuff very slowly. A occational blink from the hard drive diod, but the progress indicator showed 0% and the graphical layout didnt show much change.
    I decided it was not worth the wait.

    But the 74% percent fragmentation didnt feel good so I downloaded defraggler and defragged only the three backup folders, it took a couple of hours but at least it showed some progress and I could actually see and hear my drive working.

    After the defrag I opened UD again to see how the drive looked graphically. I was a bit surprised to see that the folders and files I did defrag where placed in the inner tracks of the hard drive without me having to tell Defraggler to do that like I have to do in UD. I didnt know defraggler did that.
    But UD showed that shadowprotect image file that were placed closest to the center was all fragmented?!
    Well I guess that is all in order, maybe it has to do something with how a defragger interprets the data.
    Same goes with a couple of .tbi Images made with Image for Win, the file is gathered in a continuous "ring" but showes up as fragmented.
     
  23. mantra

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    how can you so sure that 12% are not defragment
     
  24. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    I can't be sure, but that's what ultimatedefrag says.
     
  25. 3dlev

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    Regarding 12..14% of fragmentation remaining - this may be because of some fragmented system-locked files (pagefile.sys, hyberfile.sys, $MFT::$BITMAP etc.). These files can be defragged only at boot time.
    You can check it by right-clicking the drive, selecting "Volume info..." and clicking "Fragmented files" tab. The list of all fragmented files will appear there.
     
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