I have been waiting on the sidelines for TDS 4 to come out so I don't have to learn TDS 3 and then switch to a new system. My current version of PCCillin has repeatedly detected, but only quarantined these trojans: TROJ_AGENT.AC TROJ_STRTPAGE.SP TROJ_STARTPAG.AC. They hide in different folders and are apparently harmless, but I want to remove them. Trend Micro's fix did not work and I used XP system restore to make everything run smooth again. I have run the restore at least 3 times. My trial version of NOD 32 would not detect them. Have no idea why.I am using Trend Micro, Spysweeper, Ad-a-ware, Pest Patrol and Win Patrol. Can TDS 3 absolutely, positively detect AND clean these? I don't like quaratined files. Thanks for any info that anyone can provide.