The Windows Annoyances Thread

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by drhu22, Dec 10, 2014.

  1. Rmus

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    Hi,

    I'm not sure what you mean... that site has no connection with Windows Update Control Panel. Would you explain?

    I suggested it to the person who wanted more information on the updates than Microsoft was presenting.

    You can read any of the Knowledge Base articles from links on that site.

    -rich
     
  2. TairikuOkami

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    That depends, what will cause the crash, if Windows Explorer, then no, if explorer process, because of some faulty shell or something, then yes.
     
  3. Rasheed187

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    I will enable this feature and see what happens.

    Another annoyance: IMO all video games should be forced to run inside a window with title-bar. Of course with an option to turn this off.
     
  4. roger_m

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    There's one thing which really annoys me about Vista and later versions of Windows. You can't boot from your Windows DVD (or flash drive) and do a repair install. This is in my opinion a huge problem. To clarify things, a repair install is completely different from doing a startuo repair.

    It was a really useful, as it could be used to fix computers which wouldn't boot, and even fix some BSOD problems. In Vista or later you can only do this when Windows is running, which is of no help of course if Windows won't boot.
     
  5. safeguy

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    3. Correction. I did not mean Windows itself. I meant it's annoying when desktop programs hangs on Windows (all version) generally speaking.

    5. I wish there was an official central repository for desktop programs (not just Modern Apps). It's much easier to get updates that way. Android, Chrome OS etc etc...
     
  6. trott3r

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    Agreed that was one thing that i liked about xp and earlier.
    According to MS it caused problems so they dropped it.

    All MS had to do was warn that it will not be as stable as a clean install and let us experienced users carry on :(
     
  7. safeguy

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    You can try using the "upgrade option"

    http://vistasupport.mvps.org/repair...using_the_upgrade_option_of_the_vista_dvd.htm
     
  8. mantra

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    hi
    i read that classic shell can give issues to windows updater
    is it true?
    i guess classic shell can enable areo under w8.1 ,cant' it?

    thanks
     
  9. roger_m

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    But, as I said in my post, you can't do ths by booting from your Windows DVD, which means that you can't do it if Windows can't boot.
     
  10. Rasheed187

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    You mean like a Windows Store? I see no need for that even though on Apple it looks kinda cool.
     
  11. safeguy

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    You can. Boot from the DVD (make sure it has the relevant SP) and choose "Upgrade" when the screen asks "What type of installation you want?". Basically you are just reinstalling over the top of the current system...
     
  12. safeguy

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    Yes, I meant just that. Currently Windows Store is simply listing desktop apps...you still have to get it manually from the developers website.

    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsstore/archive/2012/06/08/listing-your-desktop-app-in-the-store.aspx
    http://lifehacker.com/5914949/windows-8-will-now-offer-desktop-apps-in-the-windows-storesort-of

    It's not about being cool. It's about making it easier for end-users to get updated apps/programs. Mobile OSes and even Linux makes it possible so there's no reason why MS can't make it.
     
  13. roger_m

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    No you can't do that in Vista and later version of Windows, the only option is the really limited Startup Repair, or to do a clean install of Windows.

    You can do an In-Place/Upgrade install form within Windows.
     
  14. Brian K

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    safeguy,

    It doesn't work I'm afraid. I deleted the Windows\System32 folder to prevent Win8 from booting. Then I tried an upgrade from the Win8 DVD. You are asked to boot into Windows and start the upgrade from there.
     
  15. safeguy

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    I see what you mean now. Yeah, it requires the desktop to be logged in while doing the upgrade. I totally forgot about it.
     
  16. safeguy

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    Apologies, it's been some time since I last did a repair install. The last time I did it, I was able to boot into the OS.
     
  17. roger_m

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    It's rarely that I do one too. But, right now I've got a Windows 7 desktop which had a har drive with errors which I cloned to a new drive, and it's not unbootable from the new drive. With XP, the chances are that I could have got it working by doing a repair install by booting from the Windows CD. However it looks like I will have to do a clean install of Windows 7.
     
  18. safeguy

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    I wonder if this would work...it just came across my mind.

    Try booting from a Windows 7 Live USB or Mini XP and then maybe do a repair installation from thereo_O
     
  19. roger_m

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    I'm looking into doing that now.
     
  20. MrBrian

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    For now, there's Chocolatey.
     
  21. 142395

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    Well, while I understand what Gullible Jones said in the link on MrBrian's post #45, still official repository with Linux-like (OS centralized) packgage management system will be good, especially for novice user who keep old plugin or browser being not updated.
    Also while package related compatibility issue is rare on Windows and most installer care that well, still in Windows it sometimes occur that you uninstall necessary runtime for other app and get into trouble.
     
  22. Rasheed187

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    More annoyances:

    - The focus rectangle, who the hell invented this, and why is there no way to turn this off? It's ugly as hell and ruins my experience.
    - The whole Metro interface, there's no easy way to kill apps or to switch to other apps. This will be fixed in Win 10 I think.

    http://www.eightforums.com/general-support/51016-how-get-rid-focus-rectangle-windows-8-1-64-bit.html

    OK, I see what you mean. You know what's weird? I was just checking out the Windows Store (inside Metro) and I've noticed that the content loads quite smoothly, why don't all sites work like that? I also wonder if it's HTML that's being used?
     
  23. Rasheed187

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    Sluggishness under disk I/O load. Win7 is as bad about this as Linux 2.6.x. To be fair, no OS is good about it; but Win7 is particularly bad about it with spinning disks, IMO.

    Windows Update service pegging the CPU at 99% for hours at a time. Seriously?

    Half a GB of Windows updates taking over 8 hours to install.

    The full package of Windows 7 updates, from SP1 to now, comprising almost 2 GB.

    No chroot. No default SSH client or server. No default method of configuring headless systems.

    Default use of complicated ACLs everywhere.

    API functions that accept eight arguments, including both inputs and outputs, half of which are complex structs, containing other structs or pointers thereto, containing other structs or pointers thereto, containing...

    A command shell based on MS-DOS still being the default in 2014.

    Making it more and more complicated to set up custom live Windows environments, for forensics, configuration and install, etc.

    Ditto for slipstreaming and removing Windows components.

    Poor CLI completion, no tabbed terminals, no terminal multiplexing...

    Not providing updated installation media to users between service packs.

    Still not having a way to mount C:\Users or C:\Programs on separate partitions.

    Temporary files being used for everything.

    ... I could go on and on and on.
     
  25. TheQuest

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    Hi mantra
    I have not had [nor noticed] any issues with using Windows Update.
    If you mean enable aero start style start button the yes, but it you chose custom over aero your able to install a start button of your choice, there are many buttons and skins on their Forum.

    The latest version can be found on the Classic Shell website:- http://www.classicshell.net

    Take Care
    TheQuest :cool:
     
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