The Cleaner 4.0 Pro Upgrade Plan

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  1. FanJ

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    FanJ, Oct 21, 2003
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  2. Third_Eye

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    This is a very good initiative taken. its very important that the cleaner sud be upgraded and it will help in the identification and removal of a lot of new trojan horses that have come up recently. the upgradation can make the cleaner much more strong and powerful.
     
    Third_Eye, Nov 17, 2003
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  3. Thomas M

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    As a registered user of "The Cleaner 3" I am thinking about the upgrade to version 4.

    Since there are many competitive anti-trojan programs on the market, do you think it is worth spending 16 Dollars for the latest version 4 of The Cleaner ??

    On Wilders.org one can read about the Cleaner:
    "Cannot cope with polymorphic trojans!"
    I do not know much about polymorphic trojans, but in general does it mean that there are better scanners out there ?? For my ionline-behaviour: I am just a standard user of the internet getting a bunch of E-mails each day. But I need to be online for almost 20 hours each day (No, not for fun ;) )

    Thanks for help,
    Thomas :)
     
    Thomas M, Nov 24, 2003
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  4. Paul Wilders

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    That's actually hard to say at this moment; version 4 has to be tested first ;)

    Correct - no info on this in regard to version 4 though.

    BOClean, TDS3 and TrojanHunter (in alphabetical order) all do a far better job then the (at least former) The Cleaner.

    A good updated(resident running) antivirus plus mailscanner, resident running antitrojan and well configured firewall plus up to date patched O/S is recommended.

    regards,

    paul
     
    Paul Wilders, Nov 24, 2003
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    peter.ewido former ewido team

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    version 4.0 again fails to detect donalddick... it looks like it's still the same bad engine...
     
    peter.ewido, Nov 24, 2003
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  6. Paul Wilders

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    I'll take it, you''ve been testing version 4 ;) A screen shot coming with your statement would be appreciated.

    regards.

    paul
     
    Paul Wilders, Nov 24, 2003
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    hmm, i don't know how, it just says: Scan Completed - No trojans were detected with an empty report... it doesn't even save a log... it seems like you have to test it for yourself, sorry ;(
     
    peter.ewido, Nov 24, 2003
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  8. Godzilla

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    Polymorph trojans doesn't exist. Only polymorph Trojan Dropper. For instance SMorph Dropper for Donald Dick.
     
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  9. Marianna

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    Hi fish 25,

    I'm also running The Cleaner 4 - to view the log you only have to click on: "File \ view log" -

    Hope this helps :)
     
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  10. Paul Wilders

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    Indeed - a matter of semantics to avoid endless discussions ;)

    fish,

    That seems proof of your pudding. We'll give version 4 a try as soon as Moosoft rolls out the upgrade tickets and time permits.

    regards.

    paul
     
    Paul Wilders, Nov 25, 2003
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    peter.ewido former ewido team

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    @Marianna:
    thanks, but the button is only clickable if something was found ;)
    ah ok, now i know what you mean...

    but it's not really the information i wanted...
     
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  12. Marianna

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    Fish

    Now I am a bit "confused" :D

    In TC 4 you click at the top of the screen on "file" - it will open - then go to "view log" - if something is NOT o.k. it will show up there. Otherwise you only will find info about: date, time, which OS, loading options, etc.

    BTW - did you load the option: "scan inside compressed files and scan for hidden exectables" ?? You'll find it by going: "Options" (at the top) > scanning.

    Hope this helps ;)
     
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    sure, but... the cleaner doesn't detect donalddick so it's not showing up there ;)
     
    peter.ewido, Nov 25, 2003
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    I just found it in the database !!

    Donald Dick - Created: September 19, 1999

    Type: Dropper
     
    Marianna, Nov 25, 2003
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  16. waldo

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    This link will bring you to the Moosoft (The Cleaner) forum where i asked a few weeks ago a question about Donald dick and other polymorph troians/droppers

    http://www.moosoft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1504&sid=69f423be5aad4b659796b580a4223fe3

    Kind regards,

    Waldo
     
    waldo, Nov 25, 2003
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  17. waldo

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    well, I just downloaded Donald Dick v1.54 and v1.55 and The Cleaner 3.5 detected them both. Antivir PE did to (had to disable first).

    I didn't try to run the client or server (not on my main Pc :)) but only scanned the complete package in .Zip format.

    Waldo
     
    waldo, Nov 25, 2003
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  18. _anvil

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    That doesn't say much, because the zip package doesn't contain any "final" polymorphic server (dropper)... :rolleyes:

    You'll have to create some droppers with the building tool (which comes with the package) yourself, if you want to properly test The Cleaner. ;)

    BTW: AntiVir does _not_ detect the DD 1.54 droppers... :rolleyes:
     
    _anvil, Nov 25, 2003
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  19. peter.ewido

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    jup, it only detects the client + generator ;)
     
    peter.ewido, Nov 25, 2003
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  20. controler

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    trying the newest version TRIAL and it finds none of my samples. They are only Zipped..

    con
     
    controler, Nov 25, 2003
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