Testing bodies AV‐Comparatives, AV‐TEST and Virus Bulletin comment on allegations of inappropriate

After all these revelations, and including everything from snowden and the freak attach on av based ssl scanners.

Is there any av vendor we can really trust to actually protect us from malware without also stealing our private information in the process?

 

Well, I'm glad I don't use Qihoo. I never use a product from a vendor I don't trust. This report just confirmed the suspicion of many. I hope they release the results of what they would have scored without the Bitdefender engine.

 

Qihoo was at RSA... And did not ask them for a statement from the booth. I expect too much....

http://www.chinapictorial.com.cn/en/features/txt/2014-07/02/content_627353.htm

Yahoo! bought that "malware" which was basically Browser Helper Object. It's business Marketshare equals money, money equals business. Huge money, huge business.
That's how we get free stuff. Someone's gotta pay for something. IMO, ads and suggestive search keywords are OK in my book, as long as there is no background upload of sensitive stuff and unauthorized usage.
EDIT: Quote article reduced in size because copyright.

 

And once again GakunGak just points the finger at Baidu and Tencent.

 

http://www.securityweek.com/germany...gn=Feed: Securityweek (SecurityWeek RSS Feed)

Sicherheit we can trust

Qihoo at least proactivelly protects against such stuff, more @ Qihoo thread post history, screenshots and all....

 

Interestingly enough, he wasn't on Wilders for nine whole days (since April 21st) right until this afternoon when this news broke out.
His employers must've put him in damage control mode and ended his holiday :-D

 

They made the accusations, they did the same thing, they got the pink slip, am I wrong to question authority?
I am just looking at the whole picture, why A is the only GUILTY party, and B and C is not.
Each side has a history of attacking each other, I am taking each side into consideration.

BTW, I don't even have to do this, this "report" is so unprofessional looking I am not even commenting anymore!
Hell, a high school student could do way better than this.
I am smelling foul play. I want financial reports, solar deliverable, public.
Now that I think of it, do not care for it anymore. This this is so marketing stunt probably ISS guys orbiting can see it from above.

 

If you are so investigating me, then you probably know I travel a lot because of my personal business I do. I am not allowed to say which it is because mods.
Also, I repediately stated I do not work for Qihoo, even proved that, but nice try though, keeps the conversation going on
EDIT: I have a habbit going into conversation if I am wanted or desired. Someone mentioned me defending Qihoo, I jumped into conversation because I find myself relevant.
Also, I am not 24/7 on this forum because I have tasks, duties and job to do, also family, so I drop in here where I can. due to travel into other countries, I am sometimes offline, but I respond when I can. People here know if I "forget" them they can nudge me/remind me, and I will get back to them. I have no problem talking to people. I am actually a pretty nice fellow to hang out with

 

+1
Testing malware ain't exactly rocket science and you can see these "labs" don't exactly have a clue.

 

I am unable to open that website as it does not support SSL

 

Paranoid friendly browser
www.epicbrowser.com
Don't trust me/them?
Trust JPG upload
http://i57.tinypic.com/144397k.jpg

 

I commend the three AV labs for taking a punitive action against a Chinese company. Much better than the flim-flam, poo-pooing, and hand ringing taken by many governments and major corporations on the issue of Chinese business practices. On the other hand, this incident just adds to the skepticism of existing AV lab practices and methodology.

My suggestion for the next round of tests:

1. Buy the consumer/business copy of the software to be tested from a randomly selected retail vendor in the country where the AV manufacturer has its headquarters.

2. Do not revise final test results because participant disagrees with your methodology as A-V Comparatives did recently for Microsoft. Remember that one?

Hope those three AV labs have pretty good computer security themselves. Expect a Red Army hack attack in the near future.

 

The link in question is entirely irrelevant and smacks of a feeble attempt to diversion. At least the poster is consistent in this thread.

 

"Qihoo representatives leveled counter-accusations, claiming that fellow Chinese security firms Baidu and Tencent also submitted program versions for testing that differed from what they offered the public. Lab researchers confirmed a difference, but determined that the products gained no advantage. In addition, both Baidu and Tencent provided acceptable reasons for the difference."

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2483498,00.asp

 

Eset and Emsisoft for sure. The best is Emsisoft when it comes to privacy,trust me.

 

No diversion intended. Just provided some fuel to fire to original statement of snowden revelation and covert surveilance, something "dirty" company is fighting against.
Proof provided. But, to some, dirty is dirty
I am not in the mood in being the "eyes" in another head

And that's why I am asking, what's different from original, consumer edition, that is acceptable, while Qihoo's are not.
Similar flags, added testing labs, etc, acceptable, but qihoo's actions [their engine turned off, due to fears of false positive!] is not.
Again, I am not defending Qihoo, in a sense that they did right. They did wrong.
BUT, they alone are not at fault as deviations from ORIGINAL consumer products are noted with OTHERS as well.
Where's the accountability?
More and more I am losing confidence with this stuff. And I don't care.
PERSONALLY, that means only me, I am happy with what I use, have no fear, and will continue to use it unless there is a serious breach to my security/privacy.
There are always alternatives.
I warned people a while back on the digital nuclear war between giants. Let's just make sure Cold stays Cold, not Hot!
From my side, I will not be the one to push the red button Even though some would like so
I have stated my opinion on this and will not comment further unless it's PM. I love TS and TSE, and will continue to support it, when I can, so I am back in my den
I'll leave this discussion to professionals who are smarter than me and have more time kicking a horse, or whatever it is called. Or is it donkey?
That thing with ears and teeth, and beating is involved....

 

AV-TEST GmbH

Pffff

 

This just gets crazier and crazier.

 

lol been most interesting test for ages!

 

Phooey... now those youtubers "languy99" and "mrizos" are starting to look like the saner testing alternatives..

 

Yep, and don't be amazed to see a trusted company with a very solid name. Sometimes Karma is a real b...h, what goes around comes around.

 

Suddenly got awkward

 

LOL
These testing labs themselves are not clean either. Looks to me this whole drama is a results of uneven profit split which leads to a dog-fight. Why not publish a financial report, especially the price paid to them from each AV vendors? Especially the non-profit AV-C. Why not?
I changed my view on AV software recently. Yes AV software does prevent some malware, but at the same time, they also transmit info back into their servers. What info are collected from the consumer? we have no clue. Damn. Looks like we have to use Linux our main OS. And every time we use Win, we have to disable the Internet.

 

Better late than never.

Any kind of test can be "optimized", though....

 

I already do that with a dual boot XP/Ubuntu box. All my important work or browsing goes through linux. All the things I could care less about goes through XP.