TeraByte Product Release Thread

In IFD choose...

Restore
Normal
File (Direct)
BIOS
Choose the HD representing your external HD. Probably Hard Drive 1 if you only have a single internal HD.

Great news. That's all you need. You don't need to create a TBWinRE disk.

 

Just trying to understand this better. How or when do I choose the options you list? My booting is done via bios sequence and works allright into IFD but once IFD shows up my options are different from yours. So seems I am missing something.

 

Are you using the GUI or CUI version?

What options are on the first IFD screen?

 

I am using the GUI version - see attached pic to show what comes up when IFD loads

 

Thanks for the screenshot.

Click Settings and remove the tick from Simple Operations. Then we'll be on the same page.

I'm just interested to hear if you can access your external HD with the BIOS rather than the USB option. Even so, I'd use IFL instead.

 

Great - and thanks again.

Removing the tick, now allows me to go via File Direct / USB to my image on the external harddrive. Via Bios though does not work as it only shows the main drive.
Anyway, seems both IFD and IFL now work

 

For what it's worth, this is how I use IFL Makedisk.

double click makedisk.exe, next
Custom Settings, next
dot in I accept the agreement, next
tick in Align Partitions on 2048 sectors
ignore Miscellaneous, next
in Additional ifl.ini Options put TimeZone=AUS-10;OutputDiskID=1, next
Product Key (it's a short one compared to IFW), next
Normal Boot, next
Normal Boot, next
BIBM Licensed Name, Product Key, in Any additional options.... TimeZone=AUS-10;GlobalGeoAlign2K=1;ISO8601=1
Ignore the BIBM page if you don't have BIBM
select your CD burner drive letter (you can use a CD-RW or a CD-R disc). Or USB flash drive. Or ISO File.
If using a UFD I choose
USB Layout... Partition - FAT/FAT32 partition (Int13h Extensions)
Geometry Calculation Method... Use Device
Finish


Edit.... What is your Time Zone?

 

thanks - made a screenshot and will keep this with my license info for the next update I do

 

Hi Brain,

Do you use the same method for WinPE, thus allowing to add BIBM?

Best regards,

Mohamed

 

In the IFL GUI dock at the top of the screen, there are some useful apps. Several TeraByte apps as well as MC (Midnight Commander).

MC can access all your Windows files. You can delete files and folders. Copy files and folders. Edit text files. Create folders.

Deleting files/folders that can't be deleted in Windows is useful.

To do this, first click the mnt icon and mount the partition. Open MC and the mounted partition will be in /mnt1

As a test I just deleted the Windows folder in Win8. It's no surprise Win8 didn't then load. It started with an Automatic Repair but to no avail. (Recovery environment isn't in the Windows folder).

 

hi

can i restore the original mbr only ?

i have image for linux,dos and windows winpe

 

You can backup and restore the original MBR with TBOSDT. Restores the MBR without restoring an image.

You can restore the MBR from any TeraByte image. It is backed up automatically. But the image is restored too.

 

so i can't restore the mbr from an image created 6 month ago without restoring the all da

is there a gain to use the uefi ?

 

What are you trying to restore from the MBR?

 

i want to retore ny original mbr , because in image for windows winpe , the Write Standard MBR Code option is On , i don't know why...

and i restore an image some days ago with this option turned on

 

The MBR (LBA-0) has three components.

Bootstrap code
Disk Signature
Partition table

You are concerned you have restored the wrong Bootstrap code. Maybe. But it doesn't matter. Win8 will boot with WinXP or with Win7/8 code.

In IFW, Settings, General tab. Do you have a tick in "Use New Windows MBR"? If you don't then you have restored WinXP code. It doesn't matter but I'll let you know how to fix it if you desire.

 

mantra,

Are you still with us?

 

yes , sorry Brian for the delay

yes i have this option ON , do you know i confused this option with the option in the restore option dialog? i'm sorry , the manual is all in in english , the program under windows in my native language, in the winpe is in english


Brian are you able to clone 1 solid disk with os installed,without unplug one?
did you do some tests?

thanks and again sorry for the delay

 

Then your MBR is as it should be. Great. No problem.

Sure. I've done this many times. What are you planning and why do you want to do this?

 

with the option Change Disk ID and GUIDs OFF?
clone w8.1 and have on both disk plugged during the first boot

 

Sure again.

It's easiest if you do Partition Copy and use BIBM as the boot manager. It is best with BIBM unlimited primaries. That way you can exclude each OS from the relevant MBR partition table. Neither Win8.1 knows the other is present. It's not just "hidden", it's "not there" as far as the other OS is concerned.

 

without bibm ,is there a way to clone without Change Disk ID and GUIDs ON ?

thanks

 

Cloning or copying without using the option to change the ID's/GUID's is not the problem. You can do that easily by just not selecting the option.

The problem is that Windows does not allow duplicate drives (those with identical signatures/ID's) to be used on the system. It also does not allow duplicate partition ID's. One of the drives (usually the one not booted) will be modified by Windows and changed. Either it will be set offline or it will have the ID's changed (which will break booting that system).

On an MBR-type drive you would, at the very least, have to have a different disk signature for the "duplicate" drive and all the partitions would have to remain completely invisible to other Windows (as Brian suggested). In other words, unless you keep the duplicate drive disconnected or in an offline state it can't be an exact duplicate.

I suppose you might manually configure the system being booted so that the duplicate drive would be offline before booting (I don't think that can be automated well and it's not an option I've ever seen in any boot manager). Definitely not something I'd consider as a workable solution. Much easier to use a drive tray or switch to keep them isolated. Of course, if you're wanting to be able to access each one from the other this type of solution wouldn't work either.

And, if you're doing this trying to keep Windows from thinking it's on a different drive, that won't work either. The drives will still be recognized as different.

 

thanks MudCrab!
may i ask you ? bu should be enough to use BIBM (after cloning/copying the original solid disk) to format or delete partition of the source ?
so at the boot , windows should see a blank drive, or?

 

Removing the partition should work. Not sure if just reformatting would create a new ID. If it did then that should work too. Just be aware that the disk signature/ID will remain unchanged and Windows will change it and anything else that conflicts when it sees the drive. This is why it's usually better to boot the first time with only the new drive so Windows doesn't get hit with so many changes at once. It allows it to get the changes to the boot drive sorted out and applied before seeing the duplicate or partial-duplicate drive.

As an example, if you copied your Windows 7 drive to a new drive and didn't change the signature or ID's, you would want to immediately boot to the new drive. Otherwise, if you booted back to the source drive first, Windows would change things on the new drive and it would not boot until repaired (or recopied). After booting to the new drive the old (source) drive will most likely not be bootable due to Windows changing it.

The bottom line is that if you want two identical drives connected and want them both to remain bootable and unchanged, you can't let either one EVER see the other drive. In these cases you would normally use a drive tray (to allow inserting only the drive required to boot) or a drive switch to allow quick and easy access to the desired Windows system.