Swiss voters approve new surveillance law

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by Minimalist, Sep 26, 2016.

  1. Minimalist

    Minimalist Registered Member

    Jan 6, 2014
  2. mirimir

    mirimir Registered Member

    Oct 1, 2011
    Predictable, I guess :(
  3. deBoetie

    deBoetie Registered Member

    Aug 7, 2013
    What's novel about this case is that at least the electorate really did get a vote on the specific subject. What's also interesting is that the result was quite close - to the extent that only 8% change would switch the result.

    It's my opinion that the current raft of surveillance legislation is actually a major constitutional change, and as such, should require way more than 50% vote, plus public transparency for the cost/benefit to be openly published. Of course, you never get that for these "security" things, it's always, trust us, it's for you own good.

    To be fair, the Swiss proposals do seem to be mainly for legalising individual warranted surveillance which they weren't previously legally able to do - it's not the blanket surveillance conducted illegally and unconstitutionally by other nations.

    It's also chilling that it mentioned that the Swiss authorities had been dependent on getting leads from their "partners", who had no such scruples, but it vividly illustrates the outflanking that many nations do (again illegally) against their own subjects using 3rd party "friends". A further problem with this is that those "friends" can exert huge pressure (threat of cutting off the information feed), if, as in Germany, attempts are made to reign in the BND or give Snowden asylum.