SUMo : Keep your software up to date

Thank you for contributing to the discussion faster than i could

Nothing to add, everything's clear.

 

Of course.
But there's nothing wrong with SUMo detecting those updates, so you can go to the manufacturer's site to download.

Not always.
Not everyone wants in-built updaters activated in all applications that offer that option.
I use it for some software, but for some I don't.
Update checkers like SUMo are very useful for those applications in which I have it's in-built updater disabled.

I use several mechanisms to check for updates. I don't rely on just one mechanism.
I use in-built update checkers for some software, I check a series of websites like for instance FileHippo, SnapFiles and Neowin, I use SUMo (for checking, not for downloading), and just to be sure I perform a weekly Secunia PSI scan. Apart from Microsoft updates, which I install through Windows Update, and a few other softwares that I update through its in-built updaters, I download and install most other updates manually from the manufacturer's sites, not through update checkers/managers/updaters.
I know this can be too much of a hassle for most users, but for those who prefer it this way, SUMo is a nice addition in the total update checking plan.

Yes, but I think the same should apply to most if not all update checkers.
I would not trust update managers to find or install updates automatically. Not SUMo, but not the other update checkers also. Only for checking.

 

Looks like SUMo isn't the only app that is worth investigating... interested in PortExpert and RAMExpert.

 

Thanks ! Any feedback on these ? Have you seen their dedicated threads here ?

 

@Kyle_Katarn

These software need updates according to Sumo.
But I could find these nowhere. Not with Google nor with any other sites listed in the Sumo update page. Please help me find the updates.

 

Disregard these items in SUMo. The both are parts of Intel and Realtek bundle which are installed on your PC. Updating only these parts can lead to a PC crash. Audio, graphic and others should be updated only as the whole bundle, not separate parts.

 

Yes, you can select both and click on "Ignore"

 

Thanks Kyle and Petr.

 

You're welcome

 

@Kyle_Katarn
Would it be possible to exclude such parts of bundles (Intel, Realtec, AMD etc.) from SUMO? You know, some users could follow SUMO's results what might bring them surprises.

 

Sure, use the "Ignore" function.

 

Sorry I wasn't entirely accurate, I meant if you can adjust SUMo so that it won't identify such parts of the bundles at all.

 

I'll check.
Would you please be so kind to open a feature request here : http://www.kcsoftwares.com/bugs/

 

Unfortunately I don't have an account so I can't do that. It's fine if anyone registered will do that.

 

OK

 

@Kyle_Katarn

There seems to be something not quite right with beta flagging.

Last week, last Tuesday, I reported Eraser 6.2.0.2963 (or 6.1.0.2963) as beta, by e-mail. That seemed to work, some time later it did no longer show up in SUMo "Check" results. However, last Wednesday it showed up again and I reported as beta again, and some time later it did no longer show up in SUMo "Check" results. But last Thursday it showed up again and I reported as beta once more. Then you replied to my e-mail and Eraser 6.2.0.2963 was correctly flagged as beta.

The same thing has been going on with HWiNFO32 and with HitmanPro.Alert.

HWiNFO32 4.5.1.0 I reported as beta, yesterday, Saturday 7, some time later it did no longer show up in SUMo "Check" results. Then it showed up again and I reported again, also yesterday, and a while later it did no longer show. And then it showed up again and I reported again, today.

HitmanPro.Alert 3.0.25.143 I reported as beta, February 1, some time later it did no longer show up in SUMo "Check" results. But then it was back again, yesterday, Saturday 7, and I reported again, and some time time later it did no longer show. But then, the same day, yesterday, it showed up again and I reported again, and later it did no longer show. But then it showed up again and I reported again, today.

So, there seems to be something not quite right with beta flagging.

What is it that is happening?
I have seen the same kind of phenomenon before.

It seems that betas are not flagged as beta, but disappear from SUMo "Check" results for some other reason, and a while later they re-appear.

This is not terrible, but it is annoying, as the user keeps on reporting the same betas over and over again.

I hope you can find the cause of this issue and I hope you can find a fix for it.

Thank you very much
and best regards

 

I don't understand why there was no reply to my Sunday, February 8 post.
If you're on vacation, Kyle, I hope you have a nice time.
If you're down with the flu, I hope you'll get better soon.

 

Hi !

I'm back from my 1 week holidays with NO access to internet nor emails (how good it was )

Eraser : Now fixed and should no longer flag > 6.0 as current. Do you confirm it is OK ?
HWiNFO32 : Fixed
HitmanPro.Alert : Fixed

Beta flagging is done "manually" by myself + a bunch of "super users" who are helping me to keep both servers (main + alternate) up to date with beta versions.
Should any of you want to participate, please send me a PM

 

I reckon it was very good.
And I'm glad you were on holiday, and not down with the flu.

All confirmed, thanks very much.

Yes, I know.
But of course I didn't know you were on holiday.
And I suppose the "super users" didn't receive my beta report e-mails, or there were some issues with flagging?

Thanks. I'll give it some thought.

 

I'm the only one to receive "beta" emails at that stage.
I'll improve that soon.

Thanks !

 

Ah, I see.
And that would be great, thanks.

 

OK, i'll let you know

 

@Kyle_Katarn

Regarding beta flagging,

Concerning the beta report for Adblock Plus for IE, beta version 1.3.763.0,
last Saturday, per e-mail, you replied "Fixed", so I supposed you flagged that one as beta.
However, later that day, it showed up in SUMo "Check" results again, and I sent another beta report. Later it no longer showed up in SUMo "Check" results, but Monday it was back and I reported again. Later it no longer showed up, but today it is back again and I reported again.

Perhaps something was wrong with beta flagging last Saturday, or the beta flag for Adblock Plus for IE magicly disappeared, or ... perhaps beta flagging is inconsistent for the SUMo server and the second SUMo server?
Do you need to put the beta flags on both servers separately? I that case you might have missed one.

Anyhow, I hope you can find the cause of this issue and I hope you can find a solution for it.

Thank you very much
and best regards

 

@Kyle_Katarn

The same thing Wednesday and Thursday.
This system of reporting betas and you (Kyle) flagging them as betas definitely has its flaws as beta flagging doesn't happen if you're absent or otherwise don't find the time for it.

 

OK, i'll check