Slow Vista Startup

Hi All,

I've been experiencing a slow Vista startup and it has been really frustrating. Even after uninstalling crapware, tweaking services to a minimum, using vista basic interface and running only antivir and sandboxie, Vista still takes ages to start up.

80 seconds to get to login screen
another 100 seconds to have all the taskbar items loded
anther 100 seconds where there is higher than usual disk and cpu activity.

My specs are
T5250
2GM Ram
Integrated graphics

Cpu activity ranked by average cpu usage


Disk usage ranked by bytes per second


Processes ranked by memory usage


What do you guys think is the problem? What is trustedinstaller.exe? What are the two processes called system modify the system volume information? Why is my laptop so bloody slow?

 

Also disk activity ranked by read access bytes per second

 

try downloading o&o defrag, do a "full/name" defrag. any help?

 

Thanks for suggestion. I have tried defragging. Doesnt really help.

 

huangker,

What you describe is definitely slower than it should be. Have you tried:

- Running an online scanner on the system (bitdefender scanner is very good).
- Run msconfig.exe (using the run command) or windows defender and checking what's starting up.
- Check the task scheduler and see what tasks might be scheduled for startup.
- Use the built-in advanced reporting tools to see what errors are being generated and/or use the built-in performance and monitoring tools to log what's going on with your system (both during startup and when running).

Good luck and let us know what you find.

 

Thanks for the help.

1) I have run bitdefender and eset online scanners and they have come up with nothing.
2) I have been tweaking with msconfig and services.msc. Almost everything is down to a minimum except drivers and essential services. I have even turned off superfetch and the paging file to try to lower the start up disk activity.
3) For some reason the built in event viewer isn't recording new startups even though I've cleared it and it is no where near capacity.
4) No tasks scheduled at startup.

 

download the trial of System Mechanic 7.

run all tasks, and tell me the results,

and, if your problems are fixed

 

81 processess running

Why is Trusted Installer running which should be set to manual and should only kick in as needed.

The CPU and disk activity after desktop comes up usually relates to superfetch loading most used apps into memory.

If you are confident with editing the registry you could set superfetch(2) to control boot only and prefetch(1) to look after application launch.

With 2 gig of ram I wouldn't use readyboost as some have shown it actually slows high ram systems down.

Anyway you could have a look at Speedy Vista where you may find some pointers.

Below are my Vista processess but I do turn off and delete quite a bit and it is nearly on par with XP for speed.

 

Huangker,

Generally, it's not a good idea to turn off the paging file (especially with Vista). Check out Tweakhound's guide for info on paging file, superfetch, and readyboost (about which there is a lot of misinformation out there (i.e., it actually is a good thing and does make a difference)).

Was this a clean install or did you upgrade over XP? How old is this Vista install? How long has this slow down been occurring? What changes were made just prior to the slow down starting (if you can remember)?

In terms of which services to enable/disable, check out Black Viper's safe recommendations (it's what I'm using and it works very well).

One other option is to boot from your install dvd and select repair and see if that fixes the problem.

 

I have windows module installer on manual but it just starts up with windows.
How did you get down to so little processes?

Clean install from Lenovo DVD. It is around 6 months old. It has also been slow with startup. Initially it took 3 mins to get everything up. It has just gotten slower and slower. I'm already very skimpy on the services and have turned most of the unnecessary stuff off.

 

Hi Huangker,

If your system is new enough, ask Lenovo to clarify whether you could benefit from their "Base Software Administrator" utility (readme's "i" designation missing). In keeping with the current objective, it may provide needed flexibility when attending to "non-essential's."


GF

 

Seems some others are having issues with Trusted Installer

With my processess I was just showing what can be done and don't advocate doing the same as I just like to tinker and try to run a system at the bare minimum.

I do have ghost images that can take me back to before trying something and which I've had to use on a few occassions through over-tinkering.

 

Hello,
81 processes, holy dentist ... I think the answer lies therein.
Mrk

 

I've uninstalled some more Lenovo stuff so now its down to 74. The only processes I have running are:

Windows system processes
Sandboxie processes
Antivir processes
Thinkpad Active Protection, Rescue n Recovery, scheduler
Mozyhome
Keyboard and pointstick drivers

Is it really that many? How much lower can you go?

I will try that later today.

I've just turned it off. Will turn it on for patch Tuesday.

 

Bump.

 

Hello,

You asked how much lower can you go?

Not using Vista, but ...

One of my machines, firewall, anti-virus, scheduler, Acronis processes, VMware Server processes, PeerGuardian, eMule, HDD Health, UPS, I'm at 43. Baseline is about 260MB memory used, after 2 weeks, goes up to about 390MB.

Mrk

 

What about Vista? How many processes do most users have?

 

My laptop here is using 79 processes and my desktop is using 67. I haven't really gotten down to trimming things on the laptop yet as I have been working on learning how to network.

My laptop takes ~110 secs to boot up while the desktop takes ~80 (it does have SP1 RC installed).

Desktop--Dell Dimension 8300, P4 3GHz HT, 1.5GB RAM, 2GB ReadyBoost

Laptop--Acer Aspire 5570Z, T2080 DualCore 1.76GHz, 2 GB RAM

 

Well this evening my laptop matched my desktop in bootup time:

 

vista certainly needs tweaking midway

im hoping SP1 will do that, but from what i saw on RC1, it does not look like it will add any general improvements to speed.

 

My desktop is more responsive than the laptop with SP1 RC. But I am not going to install it on the laptop at this time. I will wait for SP1 RTM on it.

I expected Vista to be worse on the laptop from the stories I have read but it is doing ok so far.

 

45 processes on my vista laptop.

 

41 on my desktop (this is basically following blackvipers recommendations).

 

Infinity and CSJ, would you guys mind showing a screenie of your taskmanager? this would be helpful for me to trim my processes.