ShadowProtect v2.0 - Restoration.

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by ErikAlbert, May 28, 2007.

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  1. flinchlock

    flinchlock Registered Member

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    Of course not... just tried to be a smart axe... that did not work, did it?

    Sorry,
    Mike
     
  2. ErikAlbert

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    I ditched ShadowProtect v2.0 for now, because this Image Backup software requires a basic knowledge of partitioning. If v3.0 is released, I might look at it again, but I don't expect that the partition-issue will be changed in v3.0.

    I forgot to tell you, how I did this :
    I didn't have a partition software yet, so I bought Norton's Partition Magic v8.0 ($70).
    I gave PM all the required information for both harddisks and PM did its job VERY WELL. I was surprised; considering the fact that I never used such softwares before.
    For awhile, I thought it would be a disaster because PM was displaying alot of chinese stuff, but after reboot, everything was done like I expected without losing anything.
     
  3. Peter2150

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    Hmm, ditching Shadowprotect because it requires knowledge of partitioning, but you bought Partition Magic. See Peter scratching his head.

    Hey Erik, we sure do have fun with this stuff, don't we.
     
  4. ErikAlbert

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    LOL. We sure do.

    A serious moment :) :
    Yes, but I do have a basic knowledge of partitioning, I'm not an expert in partitioning, but I know what it is.
    Two years back I thought that each partition letter was a physical harddisk. Now I know at least that this isn't true. :D

    I always look at softwares through the eyes of newbies or housewives. So I assume that these people won't know what partitions are and SP requires a backup and restore per partition.

    According my readings Partition Magic is one of the very best and that's why I bought it and it has done a good job so far.
    PM doesn't seem to have a trial, I couldn't find it.

    Before I bought PM, I tried a few freewares, but that was a disaster. I like to have it easy and PM makes it easy, very userfriendly. :)
     
  5. Peter2150

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    Actually I look at it thru my eyes to see if it works for me. Trying to make many folks understand the need for backup is a monumental task.

    I would have to agree that SP isn't housewife friendly, although I'd question whether Acronis is either. Yet both can be learned. Honestly I think for the standard imaging Acronis is fine. Just some of the advanced functions that get people into trouble.
     
  6. lodore

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    i used to think the same erik:D
    but then i found out about partitions.
    wouldnt of been better to not buy from symantec?
    im sure there are better partitioning apps out there?
    i didnt have a partitioning app hence why i brought HDM8.5
    it does both imaging and partitioning.
    the only down side is paragon is slow at imaging.
    on the face of it shadow protect desktop does look very userfriendly.
    if windows wouldnt boot and you where to just replace C: from an image you could teach anyone to do that.
    not many people would delete C: replace it with zeros then recreate it just because windows wouldnt boot.
    lodore
     
  7. ErikAlbert

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    For the record : Symantec didn't create Partition Magic, PowerQuest created PM. Symantec acquired PowerQuest, that's all.
     
  8. lodore

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    ok then.
    it still has horrible yellow packaging:D
    anyway im doing some tests upstairs.
    i booted to the paragon winpe cd.
    i deleted the C: system partition.
    then i right clicked unallocated space
    i then created a partition the same size as before.
    then i restored an image to it.
    very simple due to the very good GUI.
    lodore
     
  9. ErikAlbert

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    That's like SP. The question is : What happens when you removed three partitions. I guess you have only one partition.

    I'm going to trial Paragon Harddisk Manager Personal Edition very soon, the other versions are TOO EXPENSIVE.
    I already installed it, but didn't try it yet.
    I will test it the same way as I did with ShadowProtect. :)
     
  10. lodore

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    if you wanna buy paragon after you have tested it then tell me because i know some really good discount codes.
    one gives $120 off and one gives 70percent off.
    so with the two codes you can get the professinal version for $60
    not so expensive now.
    if you want the winpe cd made contact support.
    tell them the linux based cd dont see your external drive and can you please have a winpe cd made.
    then you can do the real testing.
    then you download the .iso file they made and burn it to a cd.
    i might upgrade to the pro version since i know some discount codes.
    my test pc has three partitions.
    C:system
    D:data
    E: images
    only one drive so i store the images on E:
    i could always plug in my external usb drive from down stairs backup C: and D: and stick the images on the external usb drive and then delete the partitions.
    lodore
     
  11. ErikAlbert

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    OK. Thanks. I will see first how good it is for me and housewives. :)
     
  12. lodore

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    No problem
    i surgest you get the winpe cd iso image. from support first thou.
    but you might have to buy it before you can get support to make you a winpe cd i dono.
    lodore
     
  13. ErikAlbert

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    I hope I can download this iso-file, because a physical CD will be a problem for me; I live in Belgium The CD might be damaged or melted, if I receive it by mail. :D
     
  14. lodore

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    there are two iso files.
    when you buy it there will be the pack and burn wizard.
    then burns the linux recovery environment to cd.
    to get the winpe cd you will have to start a support request and tell them why you want it.
    if you use usb external drives just tell them it isnt seen by the linux based cd.
    i had to prove i brought the product.
    i did and they made it for me.
    the iso file i got today was around 200mb and is the full winpe cd image.
    lodore
     
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    Hi lodore,

    Sounds like you received your WinPE CD from Paragon. It also sounds as if it has solved Paragon's Linux CD problems. Guess I'll request the same from Paragon support. Is there any cost for the WinPE CD?
     
  16. lodore

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    didnt cost me anything for the winpe.
    i just told support that the linux based cd didnt see my external usb drive.
    first they gave me the bartpe plugin.
    couldnt get it to work.
    so they made me a winpe cd.
    they saved it as a iso image.
    so i just used nero to burn it to a cd.
    now no problems.
    lodore
     
  17. kennyboy

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    I have tried to make a Bart disk for Paragon, but as I already have ATI plugin on my existing Bart disk there is some conflict when using the 2 on the same disk. It does give a workaround, but it is too complex for me.
    I am reluctant to ditch the ATI plugin.........just in case.
    Has anyone done successfully integrated BartPE with both ATI and Paragon plugins?

    Just had a thought....is this OT o_O
     
  18. Peter2150

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    It's okay as long as we don't drift to far. What you can do is build a separate bartpe disk and swap out the programs. You can also experiment with the order of the plugins.

    Pete
     
  19. kennyboy

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    It's just that both ATI and Paragon make me slightly nervous for different reasons.
    ATI because it is a little bit unreliable sometimes (on my system) and Paragon because I find the interface so quirky. Paragon does seem very reliable but to me it seems easy to make a user input mistake. Be interesting to see what Erik makes of it.
    Sadly, SP version 3.0 will be out of my reach when it arrives, but maybe they will discount version 2.0 then..........;)
     
  20. EASTER.2010

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    If anyone has made crude mistakes with Paragon it's been me, but PARAGON doesn't bully you like a Acronis, you don't like it or it's not up to your expctations, it also Uninstalls with the greatest of ease.
     
  21. kennyboy

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    Paragon is fine if you are careful, but I was thinking of Erik and his housewives.....;)
     
  22. Huupi

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    With all this talk on how we can break these app.representatives off vendors stay ghostly silent,where is grnxx,he used to be here regularly sometime ago,i am very interested in his opinion.........or he sits back smiling watching us and thinking lets the chickens fight it out,we earn our money with big corporates and these corporates has other priorities !!
     
  23. lodore

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    yes but all operations are done in virtual first.
    so unless you go apply changes nothing happerns.
    i also like the fact it tells you if your desternation harddrive tells you if it hasnt got enough space.
    once i started a acronis image and half way through it told me not enough room on harddrive.
    lodore
     
  24. Peter2150

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    vacation.
     
  25. doctorow

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    Any ETA for 3.0? Really wish I could test SP 3 on my Vista machine.
     
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