Rollback rx

Acadia

 

I am puzzled over this, has anyone use this software before? How much Diskspace will it take up? If you only have 40G and u have use 12G up can u use such a program? Does it image or takes snapshots of your crirtical system like Windows GOback? Or can it do both but u can choose?

Can FDIR do this too? I read that if u take a snap shot of your system and it is 12G that means it will double this! This is big!!!

Avail

 

It takes very little space - more than the manual implies but not much.

You should have more than enough space - remember this program takes over the MBR - so don't try to use it if you have GB already installed.

It takes snapshots based on schedule or events (like install or boot).

I use FD ISR on a different machine and I like both equally. They are different.

FD takes fullsize copies and Rolloback uses sector mapping hence space difference.

In fact I bought a 2nd copy of Rolback for my dad's machine

 

indeed - and yes it uses space but nothing compared to FD-ISR.

 

thanks guys! So u 2 r saying that using First Defense ISR will consume less disk space then Rollback RX? Can u explian? I thought both consume the same space.

 

I think he's saying Rollback Rx will use less disk space that First Defense.

Thanks,

Chris

 

much less space than FD


But both apps are excellent

 

Rollback uses MUCH less disk space than FirstDefense. They use two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT technologies to accomplish the same thing.

Acadia

 

Been following this thread and have some questions and as usual risk making an arse of my self (again)

Looks good

Can I do "bare metal" restore with Rollback snapshots?

Or is this designed more for "instant" recovery?

If there is a software snafu and cannot reboot is there a use for this app.

Can the snapshots be kept on an external drive and used for salvage in the event of HD failure?

If snapshots are made will a disc imaging app save them?

I imagine the appropriate sequence is; Rollback s'shots as req then image disk for safety then further usage then s'shots then new image ?

AS an aside;
I seem to be seeing that many disc imaging apps have conflicts with the MBR (not that I specifically understand what that is) although I see some users here are using eg ATI & Terabyte

Lost in the maze again, Longboard.

 

All of Peter's answers are . If you wish, you can download the Rollback users manual and read it before purchasing.

Acadia

 

Thankyou

@Peter2150

Which immediate recovery system are you using?
I noticed you had some issues with FRDISR recently and seemed to have gone over to Rollback. Have you gone back?

@Acadia
LOL thanks, I know, I'm trying to avoid too much brain strain and half the time I cant understand some of the terminology and the other half none of it I am cheating by trying to pick the brains of those here whom I have come to respect.

ANd so to be clear, if I am using either of these instant recovery apps, which, both have good reps so far:
which can do individual file recovery?
which will allow Disc imaging without conflict, or which Imaging app do you use?

This theme runs through several threads over and over!

Very contentious and many favourites.

As I recall Diginsight ran some personal tests in a previous thread which seemed to fade away at the end.

After gratefully recieved comments here
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=123526

I have realised I am happy to spend some $ to get peace of mind and I dont really want to spend hours screwing with my system trialling what you guys have probably done already. (I realise my setup is likely different to yours)

@Peter
i noticed the FDISR is always the "C" drive, what if the snapshot is stored on another partition?

I have 250G HD, C has OS and apps 80g, F has 170G for storage and data back up.
Have current Ghost image on external USB HD of 80g

Happy also to spend $ for bigger external HD or even go to extent of mounting internal HD, although, this seems a bit superflous with the great functionality of USB drives. Transfer speed is not critical to me.

Thanks for your support
sorry if I have HJ this thread for personal gain

LOL Still in a haze in the maze

LBD

PS :ATI I know it's many peoples' fave but I cant help but notice the forum here with some problems for many users (nothing to compare of course so this might be a bit unfair)

 

All the questions I tried to answer are from Longboard.

If you use HDS Clone http://www.horizondatasys.com/product_page.html?page_id=115&product_name=HDS Clone which is free to users of Rollback Rx this should be possible. Unfortunately it does not work with Sata drives. Or at least not my Promise Sata Raid setup. But it is supposed to be good for hard drive imaging/cloning.

As Peter said yes after the bios boots but before Windows loads Rollback Rx allows you to hit the home key and restore a working snapshot from earlier. Also as he said you can also restore the files from the crashed system as well.

Again using HDS Clone which is free to Rollback Rx users it seems like this would be possible. If you want to be absolutely sure I would contact the developer. But from the looks of their page it looks like it will work.

This seems correct. You should only need the image in case of drive failure and again HDS Clone should work for you and freee

Yes many of them do. example is you can not use Acronis True image installed in windows to restore an image with Rollback Rx installed. Although you can create an image. You must uninstall Rollback Rx then restore the image then reinstall Rollback Rx. Again you should be fine using HDS Clone. Sorry to keep repeating it but it seems to be the best answer. That is use the program made for Rollback Rx.

Not making an arse out of yourself at all. It is good to ask questions!!

No ned for bigger hard drives. Unless you have huge amount of data on them.

Just for the record to restore a snapshot with Rollback Rx takes like seconds most of the time not even minutes for the most part. On my system at least.

Not really to many problems. Just some pople have more problems than others. I have used 8 and 9 with no real complaints and I used in simple mode and some advanced features.

I hope this helps and I know some of the questions have already been answer but thought I could second them and also maybe answer in a different way. If you have any more questions please just ask

I doubt highly that you will dissappointed.

Thanks,

Chris

 

Longboard, I was going to post some answers to some more of your questions but I believe that Peter beat me to it!

Acadia

 

HDSClone is not useful for me not NTFS write support / ghost support no floppy drive so stuck again unless I use TI 9

I spoke to tech support the other day and they said they were working on a better product that integrated inmaging and stored snapshots on separate media - this will be great

 

It`s kind of disappointing that they don`t have ntfs, just Fat or Fat32. I think that most NT users are using ntfs now. Of course I could be wrong.

 

Overwhelming response, Thanks guys.

So now just one problem:

What imaging back-up can I use with Rollback?

-I saw the HDS clone at the website but it seems suspiciously lacking in detail!
and I note the previous comments about problems

-did I understand correctly there is an option for "ghost" in the bootup. Is that Symantec ghost? Will it run the usual GUI? (confess to having had good use out of ghost previously but it seems not to be a fave here as part of reviled Symantec)

You mention uninstalling Rollback and reinstalling for imaging: eehhh could you make that a bit clearer?

Does that apply to all the other imaging apps :terabyte, Retrospect, Drive image, Restore IT, Novastore etc

Coming out of the fog

LBD

 

Well guys, my preferences for the moment are :

For Image Backup on my external harddisk
I see only 3 possibilities in alphabetical order :

1. BootIt Next Generation of Terabyte
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/

2. Norton Ghost of Symantec
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/backup_recovery/ghost10/

3. True Image of Acronis
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/

I prefer "BootIt Next Generation".
I need Image Backup anyway in case of disk crashes.
I'm not a big fan of using DVD/CD's as backup media, but "BootIt NG" has that possibility, in case I need it.
I'm not a big fan of changing partitions after winXPproSP2 is installed, but "BootIt NG" has that possibility, in case I need it.
I'm not going to entrust my Image Backup to some freeware with an unpredictable future either.

For System Restore
I see only 3 possibilities in alphabetical order :

1. FirstDefense-ISR of Raxco Software
http://www.raxco.com/products/fdisr/

2. Rollback Rx Professional of Horizon Datasys
http://www.horizondatasys.com/product_page.html?page_id=89

3. ShadowUser of ShadowStor
http://www.shadowstor.com/products/ShadowUser/

I prefer "Rollback Rx Professional", if I use my brain.
Compared with FD-ISR, Rollback Rx Pro seems to be the winner in speed, space and possibilities.
I prefer "ShadowUser", if I use my intuition.
It will be a difficult choice.

 

Are you saying you have successfully restored an image (system partition) using Acronis while Rollback is installed? From my exp. and from what I am told by the developers this is not possible at this time. Or are you saying you backup non system partitions?

Thanks,

Chris

 

Confusion city
Two threads "Rollback Rx" going; both stuffed with useful info

As per the post above
@Peter this was posted elsewhere
What does it mean wrt to what you have just said above

I imagine realistically (for my needs)I would do a complete drive image for each backup

Regards.

(back in the maze wading through 55 page manuals for other apps )
(you computer smarties make it sound so easy,LOL, damn you all to hell )

LBD