Rollback RX v8

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  1. silver0066

    silver0066 Registered Member

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    Exactly...
     
  2. silver0066

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    I looked at it, but I don't think that it is an imaging program with Disaster Restore capabilities. It came with my purchase of V8 as a bonus. I will check it out again when I get time.

    I still think that the Rollback, FDISR, ATI combination is the way to go.

    FDISR operates from a partition level within RollbackRx, which operates from the MBR.

    I use Rollback for quick snapshots and snapshot restores.

    I use FDISR for quick External Backup Archives which can be restored quickly.

    I use ATI for Disaster or Bare Metal Recovery. It will restore all but Rollback. You then can restore the FDISR Archive to get current. I have two FDISR snapshots, Vista and XP, both with Rollback 8 installed.

    I recently did a test ATI Recovery to the FDISR XP snapshot, reinstalled Rollback on the FDISR XP snapshot, booted to the FDISR Vista snapshot....and lo and behold, all of my Rollback snapshots were there. I then booted to my latest Rollback snapshot and I was back where I started in XP with all FDISR and Rolback snapshots intact.
     
  3. pvsurfer

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    The bottom-line is that there are various workable back-up solutions (combining instant and disaster recovery). None of these solutions are perfect (imho), but then again, what in life is? ;)
     
  4. EASTER.2010

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    I'd like to take this moment to express my thanks pvsurfer (and others!) for you sharing your experiences with imaging programs and expressing those concerns you deem important.

    I may lack a good degree of information in this particular area of pc technology (aside from a manual lol) but those like yourself (& others) help take up that slack. I guess that's why i'm so grateful to ALL the participants and their respective replies on this topic.

    Imaging/Copying/Duplicating/Cloning or whatever term suits you best, this has to be the singlemost important aspect of maintaining a working system beit at home or business. If when the most unusal all the way to the failed software visits your system, there is no place else to turn but a proverbial BACKUP to restore matters as before or as near before as they were.

    I concluded from your exchanges that there are real DIFFERENCES that lie within each of these various imaging programs as well as the user's choices & they are Multi-Dimensional factors that come into play here.

    I see that making the right IMAGING decision for your own confidence requires plenty of study/experience and you guys seem to bring up all the right comparisons and their not based on just simple observations.

    Reviews like this make things a little easier for some us to finally latch onto ourselves. Good job!
     
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  5. pvsurfer

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    You're very welcome Easter... Considering all of the times I've asked for, and received help here, I'm happy to contribute some ideas and solutions.

    Regarding backup concepts, there are many which are workable. The thing is to find a methodology with which you are comfortable, becaise it has to become a regular part of your computing... No backup solution, no matter how elegant, will do you any good if you don't use it regularly!
     
  6. silver0066

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    Tried it. It is just a file backup program. Not good for system restores.
     
  7. silver0066

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    Thanks,

    I was not aware of that. I assume the same holds true for Version 8, but I have not tried it yet.
     
  8. ErikAlbert

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    OK. Thanks. Data Backup Rx 2.7.
     
  9. besafe

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    When I change my backup strategy I am leaning towards Shadow Protect. However, I keep feeling puilled towards Rollback RX for it's simplicity, speed, and volume of backups that I can keep on file (from what I have read).

    Question: Does Rollback RX really allow for a bare metal recovery? The pre sales guy on their website said that it does. He mentioned somethign about using Rollback RX with PE ISO disk to create a bootble snapshot that can be installed even in cases where the drive crashes and must be replaced.

    Did I understand him correctly? Does Rollback RX truly offer a bare metal recovery solution?
     
  10. Peter2150

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    That is what they are indeed advertising for version 8. But I would wait until it has been thoroughly tested. Early users here ran into issue that have been largely fixed.

    Only draw back I can see is you might not be able to us another backup type program while you test it.

    I would advise caution.
     
  11. besafe

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    I'm in no hurry. My present backup program still works. it just isn't as complete of a solutions as Shadow Protect or RollbackRX. I can be patient while they work the kinks out.

    If I go with a disk imaging solution, Shadow Protect will probably be my choice. If I go with a restore point solution, Rollback RX looks to be my choice.

    I do appreciate your input. Thank you.
     
  12. ErikAlbert

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    Wait until it calls "Rollbackup Rx"
     
  13. pvsurfer

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    As an RBx user, I would 2nd Pete's advice. Version 8 is brand new and if past history teaches RBx users anything it's to give the new version time to mature!

    The last build of v7.2.1 is stable and reliable, so I do recommend using it along with a separate disk-imaging product (to recover from any disaster-related issue). :thumb:
     
  14. besafe

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    Questions for you as you are a current user of the product:

    1. How often do you take snapshots of your computer?

    2. How many snapshots do you keep stored on your PC?

    3. Does storing the snapshots slow down your machine at all?

    4. What do you view as both the pros and cons of Rollback RX?
     
  15. pvsurfer

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    1. Once per day at initial boot (scheduled), before any snapshot restore (scheduled) and before any OS or App install/update (manual).

    2. I have it set to automatically delete all unlocked snapshots after 2 weeks.

    3. Not at all.

    4. Pro's: It's the fastest and most convenient program I've found as a far superior alternative for Windows' System Restore. As I stated previously, the last build of v7.2.1 is very stable and reliable. Con's: The measures which have to be taken into account when creating/restoring a disk-image using ATI, Paragon, etc. (although that's simply become part of my routine). When it matures, v8 should remedy this.
     
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  16. Kapiti

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    Would some kind person point me to a downloadable manual for version 8, all the manuals I've found so far are for version 7.2.

    John
     
  17. pvsurfer

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    John, I don't see it posted separately, but it should be available from the RBx v8 'Help' (pull-down) menu.
     
  18. Kapiti

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    That's the problem, I don't have v8 installed. I've upgraded EAZ-FIX to version 8 but at this stage I haven't installed it. Wanted to read the manual before going any further.

    Seems a little strange that neither RB, or EF, has an updated manual for download and both sites still showing the manual for v7.2 on the v8 pages.

    John
     
  19. pvsurfer

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    Actually (considering that v8 was just released last month), it's not all that strange. In your situation I would surely create (and verify) a fresh disk-image, after first uninstalling v7 and before installing v8. Then I would install v8, read the Help (guide) and then I would put v8 through its paces. ;)
     
  20. silver0066

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    The Manual for V8 has just been added (3/20/07) to the "Rollback_v8.exe" file that you unzip when you download the trial. Rather than opening that file, extract it using WinRar or one of the other extractors and the "Rollback Rx V8 User's Guide.pdf" file will be in the Documents folder.
     
  21. Kapiti

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    Thanks, have it now:)

    John
     
  22. pvsurfer

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    For those of you now using v8, please continue to report back with what you are experiencing (good and bad).

    Thanks!
     
  23. osip

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    Saw this on Horizon´s site concerning v8:
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    Rollback_Rx_Pro_Version8 17442.7 KB Compressed File 3/27/2007 4:04:11 PM

    Any comments to that from v8 users?
     
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  24. silver0066

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    The Bad:

    Backup snapshot does not work with RAID drives even though it uses a BARTPE type Recovery Disk, it will not Recover to RAID.

    Snapshots are much slower than in Version 7
     
  25. LoneWolf

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    Yes the snapshots are slower then v7 taken with the GUI open but take a snapshot from the traybar icon,much faster.At least for me it is.
     
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