restore w7 image issue ,paragon doesn't support creating the 2048 offset partitions

hi
i have paragon 2010 pro and the winpe cd

well it doesn't full support windows 7

well i found that it doesn't support creating the 2048 offset partitions

just a quick test
create a partition without the 2048 offset partitions
restore an image
w7 will not boot

 

Not sure what you mean.

I originally had 7 installed on partition without the 1mb offset.

Then aligned it using Paragon Alignment tool.

Restored an image to that without any problem .

Paragon will update bcd to reflect the offset that you are restoring too.

If 7 will not boot - something else appears to have gone wrong.

 

What is the Paragon Alignment tool?

 

This
http://www.paragon-software.com/business/partition-alignment/

 

i mean i installed w7 from scratch on a hard disk without partitions

i backup w7 with paragon 2010 pro , restored , it worked!

i erased every partitions on the hardisk
make a 1 new one and restored the image
not booting

is there a tutorial for your tip ?


thanks a lot

 

If you installed 7 on an unpartitioned HD - there would also be a 100mb system reserved ( unlettered) partition. It contains the boot critical files.

If you then backup and restore the win7 partition that will be fine as the 100mb partition is still there.

If you wipe the HD and restore only the win7 partition - then the 100mb partition containing the boot critical files will be gone - it won't boot.


The alignment tool doesn't have a tutorial as far as I know. You just start it - it tells you which partitions need aligning - you select which ones you want to align and off it goes.

It is for aligning partitions that already have an o/s o them . It needs to move all the data of course, so it takes 3-4 mins analyzing, and in my case, about 12 mins to complete the alignment of each partition.

I ran it from within WinPe 3.

Hope it helps.

 

i will try it
maybe it's more easy create a new partition for w7 empty maybe not 100gb but 60gb,use the alignment tool on it , and restore the old image(made from the original 100gb using the resize feature in the restore wizzard?



i used in the past acronis disk director , is the alignment a resize feature ? or is a move feature ?

but weird , i guess o&o disk image 5 & Active@ Disk Image can do it without headache ,can no them ?

thank a lot for your help



ps i boot with me winpe hard disk 2010 pro
did not find the feature "alignment tool" in the wizzard or in the full scale
and in the full scale i can see only 1 partition of 100GB , and after another partition of data
no hiden 100mb system reserved, no unlocated space , nothing,what's wrong

 

Not sure what you mean - Paragon does it perfectly.

Therefore you would have had a 100 mb partition containing the boot critical files.

Yes, Paragon would have restored it perfectly and updated bcd in the 100mb system partition which is still on the HD.

You erased the 100mb partition as well as the win7 partition - then restored only the Win7 partition. That's why it didn't boot.



You don't get the 100mb partition created if you install 7 onto a drive that already has an Active partition, or already has 4 partitions.


On the alignment question - I think the alignment tool comes with PM11 Pro - not PM10 Pro. Users of the PM10 Server and HDM 10 Server will also get it , I believe.

You can certainly try using the resize feature to do it.

Obviously, if you already have an o/s on the partition - then you want to realign it to 2048 , that means an extra 1mb is needed at the start.

Therefore data already on the beginning of the partition has to be moved by 1mb.

That has to be done without expanding the partition by an equivalent 1mb.

Hope it helps.

 

well i installed w7 on a brand new hard disk ,without data of course
and after i did install w7 i created 3 partitions , throughout 4 (included w7)

i did not wipe w7 or other partition
after the installation i made an image , that's all
with paragon winpe i dont not find the 100mb hidden

 

I have read that the "2048 offset" problem can be solved by repairing the Windows installation, using the boot "repair disc" or booting from the Windows installation disc.

 

no there is not

no it did not

no i did not

in the paragon there is Hard Disk Manager 2010 Professional no 11 pro

there is not such feature in the pro version

 

I'm sorry, I can't follow what you are saying.

I never had a problem restoring a Paragon image to any location with any offset.

 

sorry for my poor english
about the wiping is a hypothetical scenery, scenario ,never wiped the hard disk


why i can not see for example the unlocated space between the first partition 100GB with w7 and the second partition with paragon

i can see with acronis disk director

 

Thanks for the reply.

Can you see the 1mb unallocated space in Windows Disk Management?

Some apps. will show it - some won't.


On the original question - did you have another HD attached when you installed 7?

If you did, and if there was an Active partition in the path of the 7 installer - the boot critical files would be on that active partition.

If you kept the drive lineup the same - Paragon should have updated bcd on that partition so you could boot into the newly restored partition.

 

no i can't see , only disk director recovery disk show me
this is sad because i bought paragon

yes with windows xp

i got on my xp a folder c:\boot
but in the hard disk with xp , i have not a hidden partition and i have not unlocated space

by the way is there a good partition software
i need one good
paragon is good , but can't understand why it doesn't show me what disk director shows

thanks
appreciate it a lot

 

Hi,

You won't get the 100mb partition if the installer sees an active partition.

It saw the active partition on your XP drive and created the win7 boot critical files on the XP partition.

That is normal.

Paragon is the best Partition software.

I don't know why it ( and windows disk management and many others ) do not show space of 1 mb or les.

 

yes ,only acronis and lsoft show me extra information
give a look here https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=271910


thanks
your are very kind!

have a nice day
cheers

 

but is there a option maybe to let me show every things
like advantage mode?

 

Hi,

If you want to see everything - select Disk View >Disk Editor tab.

 

maybe it can't

oh no
but maybe paragon hard disk pro 2010 can't see the unlocated space made by other software?

thanks SIW2 for the support

 

Re: maybe it can't

Paragon can see it - you can check the start sectors and paragon knows exactly where everything is.

It is choosing not to show it on the main disk map ( just like Windows Disk Management doesn't show it ).

 

Re: maybe it can't

well i don't work with Disk View >Disk Editor tab.
it's a nightmare
i hope someone of the paragon team come to tell what's wrong

and..

i don't find fair that Partition Manager 11 Personal ($39.95) has this feature
and Hard Disk Manager 2010 Professional ($99.95) has not
but it's more old partition maganger 11 pro or partition manager 2010 pro?

 

SIW2: Is the alignment tools from Western Digital the same as the Paragon partition alignment tool? Thanks.

http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=805&lang=en

 

That's the command line version - I beleve it only works on WD drives.

 

I think there are two different "alignment" problems:

1. The one related to the "4X" format or AFD (Advanced Format Drive) disks. The WD program refers to this.

2. The one related to the 2048 offset, that is different from the above and refers to the partition alignment introduced with Vista and also used by 7.