Prevx Edge not detecting anything.

Discussion in 'Prevx Releases' started by Phantasm, Aug 23, 2009.

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  1. Threedog

    Threedog Registered Member

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    :D I will wait for the new release.
     
  2. simmikie

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    i performed a very basic test, downloading one trojan to an online scanner which resulted in 38 of 41 scanner engines indicating the file as malicous (including P3). no reaction from P3 when downloading, executing, file scanning (system scanning in progress) i thought it would be completed by now...seems to be hung. rescanned from GUI instead of systray right-click icon scan. P3 tells me System Clean. :eek:

    Joe, what besides the fix of this bug will 3.5 offer? and how does the release of 3.5 impact the release of 4.0?

    in any case glad that you and folks from Great Britain are on it, though it seems to me your telemetry should have provided more insightful data, should it not have?

    Mike
     
  3. PrevxHelp

    PrevxHelp Former Prevx Moderator

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    Quite a lot including a redesigned protection engine (optimized for lower resource usage and higher speed), numerous minor fixes/improvements, and a "small" new feature of transparent browser security which blocks malicious websites/prevents keyloggers/screengrabbers/clipboard stealers/form grabbers/cookie stealers/man-in-the-browser threats/DNS poisoning/quite a few other pieces :)

    3.5 is indeed a bridge release to 4.0 and the new protection drivers will let us bridge easily into 4.0 when the time comes. We are still in the designing process of planning everything which will be included in 4.0 but 3.5 will definitely be a major step up from 3.0.

    Our telemetry shows that this problem has limited scope and doesn't affect the bulk of the Prevx userbase although it definitely does affect users of specific security products with specific installation characteristics.
     
  4. simmikie

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    thanks Joe for the info, looking forward to the release of 3.5. btw will this browser feature work equally well with all browser brands (my default is Opera) and be compatible with isolated browsers (Defensewall here)?

    and also, will i need to peek back into this forum, or will P3 auto-update to P3.5?

    and lastly regarding this comment:

    i have had the same security apps installed almost since P3 became availabe, in fact the only change around 6 months ago was when i swapped out Outpost Pro for Comodo CIS. Prevx has worked fine with Comodo and Defensewall, so i am not sure what has changed, but it has not been with my products or installation of these products.

    Mike
     
  5. TonyW

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    We're almost at the end of this week; any news on the upgrade release?
     
  6. demoneye

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    i can confirm, thread topic , prevx really catch most it air :D
    i checked it in my VM against 0 -days malware from all kind , it detect like its claim zero 0 day protection :argh:

    to confirm the malwares are real i u/l them to virustotal and surprise :D they detect as malware by most big anti virus company(not by prevx) :D

    so ... let it go prevx ....
     
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  7. PrevxHelp

    PrevxHelp Former Prevx Moderator

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    A miss on VirusTotal rarely means that the Prevx product misses the detection. If you have a sample which Prevx does not detect, please send it to report@prevxresearch.com and we will analyze it and add detection if needed :)
     
  8. PrevxHelp

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    Let's just say that this weekend will be a busy weekend for anyone looking to test :cool:
     
  9. demoneye

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    prevx did miss coz my pc get dead after run the malware even prevx was on in almost maximum protection setting :D

    i just u/l the samples to double check what are they ....and yes they WERE REAL :)
     
  10. PrevxHelp

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    I'm not sure what you mean by "my pc get dead" - if you have samples of the samples or details on them, we will be able to add protection. Nothing is perfect and Prevx doesn't claim to be perfect.
     
  11. Triple Helix

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    Must be getting late in the UK by now :shifty: hint, hint

    TH
     
  12. PrevxWebDesigner

    PrevxWebDesigner Former Prevx Moderator

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    From his messages, it sounds like he uploaded them to VirusTotal.

    Not sure these have been sent to the email address as listed in the "missing detections" thread?
     
  13. Dark Star 72

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    Yes, it's just gone 9pm and I want to be in bed by midnight :cautious: :D
     
  14. trjam

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    But, I think all will agree, damn good.;)
     
  15. demoneye

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    i mean the malware bypass prevx , make my pc infected and in some case "dead" which mean i cant use it , all stuck , depend on the kind of malware i run over there...
    and when i said i upload its regard to virustotal , not prevx mail , hope i make it clear this time ;)


    cheers
     
  16. PrevxWebDesigner

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    We'd only need his scan log :)

    Personally, I'd be surprised if we missed all his malware samples, and without further information, would initially assume incorrect install / configuration. However - If the scan log / samples were provided, then we'd freely admit if we had indeed missed them.
     
  17. PrevxWebDesigner

    PrevxWebDesigner Former Prevx Moderator

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    Not meaning to seem argumentative - but you don't exactly provide hard evidence...

    Anyone can come in here and post "Prevx misses XYZ", but without giving us the opportunity to confirm or deny your claims, then I don't really see what you're hoping to achieve except attempt to bad-mouth blacklisting methodologies (which is only a very small portion of our defence mechanisms)?

    If we are indeed missing droves of malicious software as you claim - then we would appreciate being given the opportunity to analyse these, as a simple tweak of our behavioural rules could then detect and catch all these with one simple change :)
     
  18. Bitten By C Bug

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    I am working with Joe in email and Prevx isn't detecting Eicar zip file, text file etc, nod av popped, I disabled, windows defender popped, I disabled downloaded Eicar zip file to DT and extracted and scanned with Prevx ==Nada even right clicked scan same thing. I know Joe is a busy man but I am kinda stuck here on wat exactly to do since there are some other issues happening that are saying infections via My Prevx Console but never emails or alerts, btw nod av==clean, MBAM clean, WD=Clean. I will wait for further testing via Joe from here or email I replied too. Something isn't right and I have replicated the email issue BUT not getting emails if makes any sense and NO alerts. Only change in setup is Maximum Huerst instead of Medium, and No Splash Screen.
     
  19. PrevxHelp

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    If you could forward information about these threats to report@prevxresearch.com, we will ensure that the research team adds them to our automated web crawling.

    There are some cases where threats will exist that are literally never seen by anyone in the community or that they die off very quickly. Very rarely will a real, actively spreading, threat pass through the Prevx defenses because we are able to constantly see, in realtime, exactly what threats are emerging (and even have it broken down into graphical displays which let us lock onto priority threats :))

    However, if there is a hole in our defenses, we're very interested in minimizing it as best as we can!
     
  20. PrevxHelp

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    You aren't working with me at the moment but I can work with you :) We will be releasing a new release candidate version of Prevx tonight which will be a better ground to try testing on. I will be posting details of this shortly which should help get us further information on the problem :)
     
  21. PrevxHelp

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    I wouldn't be too worried about the time tonight :)
     
  22. Bitten By C Bug

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    I apologize Joe as I thought I'd been conversing with you for past 2 -3 weeks to try and get this rectified. I will wait with Prevx Broken until new release is auto updated and hopefully fixed on my side.
     
  23. Page42

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    Being that there are 479,000 results when one Googles the above, I can see the moderator's point in asking you to be more specific. And as a frequent visitor to Wilders and someone who has read more than a few of your posts, I've never witnessed you "intending to keep quiet" about any subject. On the contrary, you seem to get a special kick out of bashing Prevx with a broken record-like frequency. Okay, we get it, you don't think Prevx is effective. Why the repetition?
     

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  24. demoneye

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    i dont think you are on the right trail man , writing thing about software (this case prevx) doesn't mean the person hate it! it mean he write what he went threw with it or what he can understand from his experiences with it .
    such pathetic remark as yours mean maybe u don't understand forums way of proceeding.
    if sj100 point some uncomfortable reply for your eyes , u cant choose to skip it or not reply in such aggressor( not say gay way) like u did .:D

    cheers
     
  25. PrevxHelp

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    We've now officially released the RC of the new build of Prevx - could you try following the instructions here: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=252662 to see if that fixes your problems?

    Let me know how it goes (or in that thread :))
     
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