Please help me with os selector and windows 7

Discussion in 'Acronis Disk Director Suite' started by usuariodvd, Feb 18, 2009.

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  1. Dallas Vette

    Dallas Vette Registered Member

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    Can't see it in CMD prompt, but don't know command to reveal hidden files either...and holy cow...DD boot disk can't see any folder named BOOTWIZ either!
     

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  2. Dallas Vette

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    I'm wondering if all this is because I didn't deactivate OSS? I'm grabbin straws here...
     
  3. MudCrab

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    Start the Command Prompt in Administrator Mode (instructions can be found here, if needed).

    At the prompt, type the following (<ENTER> means to press the ENTER key):
    Code:
    cd \ <ENTER>
    dir /ah <ENTER>
    You also should be able to enter into the BOOTWIZ folder directly:
    Code:
    cd bootwiz <ENTER>
    dir <ENTER>
    Also, I thought that OSS was installed on your Vista partition (or the XP partition) and not the Windows 7 partition. If OSS hasn't redetected the drives, it may not have created the BOOTWIZ folder on the Windows 7 partition yet.
     
  4. Dallas Vette

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    Yes it was installed in Vista...I have not re-activated the OSS yet because when I do I can't boot to Win 7 anymore! Am I going to have to copy Win 7's bootwiz.oss file over in DOS mode?
     

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  5. MudCrab

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    Not being able to boot into Windows 7 after you reactivate OSS shouldn't be a problem because you can boot into Vista.

    Reactivate OSS, boot into Vista, get the BOOTWIZ.OSS file and post it. Once Windows 7 is added to the file, you should be able to boot into it.
     
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    yes, the bootwiz.oss of the post 84 mudcrab
     
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  7. Dallas Vette

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    Here is the bootwiz.oss I found in Vista's partition...
     

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    jreumay,

    Here is the revised BOOTWIZ.OSS file. I assume you setup Windows 7 to boot from it's own partition and setup the file that way. This would mean you had the XP partition hidden and the Windows 7 partition Active when you installed Windows 7.
     

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    Are XP and Vista both booting okay from OSS? I ask because the settings in the file are kind of weird.
     
  10. Dallas Vette

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    They boot fine. Just checked. I did notice a buncha superfelous partition entries in the 'partition properties' section of OSS
     
  11. MudCrab

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    Okay. I left XP and Vista as they were.

    I setup the Windows 7 entry to boot from the Windows 7 partition, set it Active and hide the XP and Vista partitions.

    See if it works.
     

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  12. Alessandro17

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    Hi

    I hope you can help me as well.
    I had the following setup:
    1st HD: Windows XP, Windows 7, a logical partition with Linux Swap and a openSUSE.
    2nd HD: Mac OS X, unpartitioned space.
    I could boot Windows 7 from the Windows boot manager. OSS could only see Windows XP.
    I deleted XP and gave all the space to Windows 7.
    I guess the BIOS still sees Windows 7 as the second partition, as Linux reports it as sda2, with a tiny free space as primary.

    Cfdisk output:

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Primary Free Space 0.04*
    sda2 Boot Primary NTFS [=] 524715.26*
    sda5 Logical Linux swap / Solaris 2155.03
    sda6 Logical Linux ReiserFS 223283.46



    I have used some of your modded bootwiz.oss files, but Acronis tells me that it can't find where Windows 7 is located. Now I am booting from GRUB.
    Another problem is that I haven't been able to open BOOTWIZ, not even as administrator and not even after changing permissions, but I solved that from Linux.
    Thanks for any help.
     

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  13. MudCrab

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    You can't just take someone else's file and try to use it like you did (OSS will fuss and it makes the file overly complicated). Each file will only work on one OSS system because of the ID values used. It's okay to use a modified file as a template to make the changes/additions necessary, but it has to be modified to use the ID values that are correct for that system.

    If you want me to look at the file, please uninstall OSS and then reinstall it so it can have the file it should have. I have no idea what state the system is in at this point. If you can't uninstall OSS, delete the main BOOTWIZ folder and then reinstall it.

    Getting the file from Linux (either internal or from a Live CD) should work okay if you can't get it from Windows.
     
  14. Alessandro17

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    Thanks for your kind and prompt reply.
    I have done what you suggested, here is the new bootwiz.oss.
    In the meantime I have added more partitions to the 2nd HD and installed another Linux.
     

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  15. MudCrab

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    Alessandro17,

    Try this file and see if it works.
     

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    Great! t worked beautifully first attempt. Thanks so much! :D
     
  17. Dallas Vette

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    It is now working...thanks!

    1. Selecting Windows 7 boots straight into the OS
    2. Selecting Vista goes to Windows Boot Manager where I have to select btw Win 7 or Vista. Can this extra step be eradicated?
    3. Is it safe to unhide Vista & XP from within OSS?
     
  18. MudCrab

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    Good.

    The Windows 7 entry needs to be removed from Vista's BCD file. You should be able to do this using a program like EasyBCD or by using the bcdedit program.

    Note: <ENTER> means to press the ENTER key.

    1. Boot into Vista.
    2. Start a Command Prompt in Administrator Mode.
    3. Run bcdedit.
      Code:
      bcdedit <ENTER>
      It will list your OS entries. The Vista entry should be shown as {current}. The Windows 7 entry will probably have an ID value {########-####....}.
    4. Find the ID value for Windows 7.
    5. Delete the Windows 7 entry from the BCD file (use the correct ID value):
      Code:
      bcdedit /delete {########-####...} <ENTER>

    When you're at the Command Prompt, you can type the following for some examples:
    Code:
    bcdedit /delete /? <ENTER>
    It's up to you. Personally, I prefer that the OS partitions are more isolated from each other. However, normally it won't cause a problem to have them visible.
     
  19. Dallas Vette

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    I can't make heads or tails of this...
     

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  20. MudCrab

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    What is your I: partition?

    What drive letter is assigned to the Vista partition when you boot into Vista? Normally, this is C:.

    Are you sure you're pulling up the correct BCD file (the one on the Vista partition)? Using your Vista partition's drive letter instead of "X:" in the line below, see if the Windows entries show up:
    Code:
    bcdedit /store x:\boot\bcd /enum all
     
  21. Dallas Vette

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    Vista = C
    "I" = Win 7

    new command worked well but I dont know what the identifier is for Win7, it says default
     

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  22. Dallas Vette

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    I assume you were booted into Vista when you took the screenshot.

    You would use {default} for the ID value of Windows 7 (you'd don't need to know the actual numbers).

    You will need to continue to use the /store option to modify the correct BCD file. For example:
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    bcdedit /store c:\boot\bcd /delete {default} <ENTER>
    That should remove the Windows 7 entry from Vista's BCD file.
     
  24. Dallas Vette

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    Amazing....I hereby crown you King of all Mud Crabs..
     

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    Nice picture. Now I just need to keep my head above water so the crown doesn't fall off...
     
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