paragon hard disc manager 8.5

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by lodore, Apr 27, 2007.

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  1. ErikAlbert

    ErikAlbert Registered Member

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    I always take a FULL backup, because they are INDEPENDENT.
    - I have 3 images of my system partition : monday, wednesday and friday.
    - I have 7 images of my data partition : one for each day of the week.
    And I overwrite these images when the next week begins.

    In your case, I would have 7 images of my harddisk : one for each day of the week, because your data is on the same partition.

    Incremental and differential are dependent of the first backup and I don't like that.
     
  2. lodore

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    for that i would need a new external harddrive.
    i have one 100gb external drive and my c: partition is 67gb
    paragon image with full compression is 45.8gb
    i might try and buy a cheap external drive so i can have more images.
    lodore
     
  3. wilbertnl

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    Incremental images depend on each other in sequential order:
    -> If you make one full backup (named 00-full) and three incrementals (named 01-incr, 02-incr and 03-incr), then you will need all images be available in order to restore to 03-incr.

    Differential images store the differences with the full image.
    -> If you make one full backup (named 00-full and three differentials (named 01-diff, 02-diff and 03-diff) and you want to restore to 03-diff, then you only need 00-full and 03-diff. In fact, you can discard 01-diff and 02-diff.

    Differential images are usually a little bit larger than incremental images.

    Hope it helps.
     
  4. pvsurfer

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    Can Paragon Hard Disk Manager 8.5 create a Raw-Image backup (like Paragon Drive Backup 8.5)?
     
  5. lodore

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    paragon hard disc manager 8.5 has the same options as drive backup 8.5 plus the paratitioning stuff.
    i had just got an email back from paragon.
    it seems the same thing happerned to another one of there customers there other day.
    so im gonna send them the log files and sort this out.
    lodore
     
  6. pvsurfer

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    I'll take that answer as a 'yes'... Thanks. ;)
     
  7. lodore

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  8. lodore

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    i went to device manager and clicked on update driver.
    it updated the driver rebooted and now ive taken a new screenshot.
    im gonna check it against the slicon image page to see if its the lastest driver or not.
    i just checked autoruns and there is no longer a beta sata raid mini port driver.
    the beta driver could of caused some of my problems but now its been replaced.
    lodore
     

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  9. lodore

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    once i installed those drivers i uninstalled paragon rebooted then installed paragon.
    it now works perfectly thanks to paragon support!
    lodore
     
  10. Long View

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    Now that you appear to have fixed the "real" problem it would be interesting to see if True Image now works :D

    Before you reject the idea - remember that you can now make a full image with
    paragon - install TI 10 again - try it test it - and then restore from paragon....

    apart from wasting a few minutes there is no reason not to try.


    just a thought.
     
  11. lodore

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    well it seems i was using a beta slicon image sata raid driver from 2004.
    but now im using a stable driver from this year.
    so my computer should work better now.
    i have just created a success full image with paragon using hot processing.
    paragon sent me a cd with the the installer files and pack and burn wizard in both english and german instead of the advanced winpe recovery cd.
    so i sent them a support request about that.
    i dono about your idea thou.
    lodore
     
  12. Escalader

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    Given that the driver was part of the problem with TI is is a reasonable ? to say go back to TI and try again.

    BUT if anyone were to ask me I would say to lodore, compare the support you have now from paragon vs that from TI and use that to decide. That is given the products are equal in lodore's opinion.

    For me once I've climbed the tool learning tool and it works okay and I get good support why go back, you have paid your money. If you wanted to reconsider, do it at renewal time!
     
  13. aigle

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    Hi Ladore! Pls let us know about the WinPE recovery CD when u get it?
    Also tel us how u compare WinPE of SP with WinPE of Paragon!
     
  14. lodore

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    Hi Aigle,
    i will do that.
     
  15. lodore

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    ATI support took like 5 weeks to reply when i told them the linux recovery cd wouldnt boot.
    and they said go in to the linux environment and give them the logs.
    well since i told them i couldnt boot from the cd at all.

    anyway paragon support takes only one or two days to reply with things to try. yesterday i sent them the log files they asked for and today they gave me the solution that worked fine.
    paragon is a no hassle solution that uninstalls cleanly unlike acronis.
    it took 2hours 47 minutes to create a 49.6gb image of a 67gb partition.
    acronis used to take 3hours to create an image and produced a bigger image.
    i trust paragon since there software is great, it uninstalls cleanly and there support is top quality.
    i could reccomend paragon to anyone.
    lodore
     
  16. lodore

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    should i install ATI 9 upstairs on my test pc and see if it works?
    i can then just restore a clean image from paragon.
    lodore
     
  17. Long View

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    If the driver was the problem it would be very interesting to see - just for the record - if Acronis now works.

    The figures you quoted for paragon 2 hrs 27 minutes are fascinating. I think they show just how careful we all need to be when praising or criticizing software.

    Using TI 10 home I have just backed up across a network 28.3 gig from a 75 gig drive in 43 minutes. For 49.6 this would equate roughly to 1 hr 15

    This was using an old Pentium 4 2.4 with 1 gig of memory. with a more modern machine ( more memory - sata drive etc) I would expect to do the same in less than 20 mins
     
  18. lodore

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    i have a problem and need it sorted right now.
    i had the same problem upstairs except it was that i couldnt mount an image.
    it seems to be a new feature in the 8.5 seris thou.
    lodore
     
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  19. lodore

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    never mind i logged out logged back in and have now successfully dismounted the image.
    lodore
     
  20. Banshee

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    Hi Lodore,


    Is paragon better than shadow protect ?


    thanks
     
  21. Peter2150

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    I agree Longview. WHen I have Vista on my machine the size is roughly 28 gig. My last image time to an external USB drive was around 8 minutes.

    Pete
     
  22. lodore

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    Hi Banshee,
    both are top products.
    i choose paragon because on my test pc i managed to backup in windows with no snags.
    but shadow protect desktop couldnt seem to backup in windows with kis6.0 installed which of course is a problem for me. i done all the tests on windows 2000 pro sp4.
    but Peter managed to backup a system with kis6.0 installed no problem with windows xp sp2 so i dono.
    but i dont know if Peter backed up in windows or used the recovery cd.
    but when i emailed paragon support they where always very fast at replying and always managed to help me where it was a sales questions or a questions about the product.
    plus some kind person on this forums gave me a 70percent discount code for any paragon product.
    so i got paragon hard disc manager person edition and the winpe recovery cd for just wait for it.... $23 dollers.
    i just couldnt say no.
    i was debating on shadow protect desktop or paragon but choose paragon due to there great support and the price i could get it for.
    but i got to admit the person on the shadow protect desktop forum called Nate is very very funny:D
    so if you want to buy an imaging product try both and choose for yourself.
    you wont be disapointed on eiether product.
    lodore
     
  23. Banshee

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    Hi Lodore,

    Thanks for the info. If I am not mistaken paragon hard disk manager does also disk partioning besides imaging right ?

    In that case wouldn't I be better off getting paragon instead of shadow protect ?


    Tia

    B
     
  24. lodore

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    your correct hard disc manager does do partistioning as well.
    also it does defragging as well.
    lodore
     
  25. EASTER.2010

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    I still find my old version 6.0 of Hard Disk Manager by PARAGON to be invaluable. I'm running it through some paces this week(end) and so far it still PERFORMS! as always. I'm smothered in Hard Drive mania ATM because thanks to the Fantastic program FD-ISR i have now had to rearrange and restructure all my drives again and make up for lost time by repairing some that i just placed on the backburner after some file corruption and only used as slave (secondary) storage. I since am reordering all my drives to boot up FIRST! then switch jumpers and set them as Secondary storages for Archives! And a few for IMAGES!!
     
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