Paragon B&R 2011 (Advanced) Free Startup problem

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  1. u234

    u234 Registered Member

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    Hi!

    I'm new on this forum, and I have a problem with Paragon B&R.

    When trying to start up Paragon B&R I get the following message:

    "Operation failed"

    "Paragon Backup & Recovery™ could not be started because some product that uses the Hard Disk Engine must be already running.
    Please close that program first and try again."

    I can't find out what other program might use the "Hard Disk Engine". I have turned off automatic defragmenting (Vista).

    My laptop:
    ASUS X71Q, 4GB RAM, HDD 250GB, 2 partitions (C, D), NTFS, Vista home premium.

    The same program works very well on my desktop computer (old Dell running XP).

    Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
     
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    Cudni Global Moderator

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    Are you running it as Admin?
     
  3. u234

    u234 Registered Member

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    Yes, I'm the only user on this computer.
     
  4. u234

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    Below is a list of processes running on my ASUS computer as reported by Process Explorer:


    Process PID CPU Private Bytes Working Set Description Company Name
    System Idle Process 0 98.46 0 K 24 K
    System 4 0 K 3*452 K
    Interrupts n/a < 0.01 0 K 0 K Hardware Interrupts and DPCs
    smss.exe 532 292 K 660 K
    csrss.exe 664 1*840 K 5*164 K
    wininit.exe 708 1*540 K 3*736 K
    services.exe 752 2*772 K 6*312 K
    svchost.exe 976 3*296 K 5*924 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    ACEngSvr.exe 3960 2*096 K 4*688 K
    igfxsrvc.exe 3924 2*748 K 4*840 K igfxsrvc Module Intel Corporation
    ehmsas.exe 4268 1*572 K 4*228 K Media Center Media Status Aggregator Service Microsoft Corporation
    svchost.exe 1048 3*724 K 5*608 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    svchost.exe 1104 67*556 K 26*140 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    svchost.exe 1172 16*092 K 10*760 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    audiodg.exe 1336 15*808 K 8*884 K
    svchost.exe 1204 54*400 K 57*596 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    wlanext.exe 1848 2*372 K 4*840 K
    dwm.exe 3352 0.77 47*068 K 42*268 K Fönsterhanteraren för skrivbordet Microsoft Corporation
    svchost.exe 1232 48*700 K 52*728 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    taskeng.exe 1120 2*256 K 5*284 K
    taskeng.exe 3380 1*800 K 4*536 K
    ALU.exe 3580 1*988 K 4*408 K
    sensorsrv.exe 3672 1*456 K 3*664 K
    taskeng.exe 3600 < 0.01 9*952 K 9*084 K Motor för Schemaläggaren Microsoft Corporation
    svchost.exe 1356 2*188 K 4*232 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    SLsvc.exe 1376 6*140 K 5*640 K Microsoft Software Licensing Service Microsoft Corporation
    svchost.exe 1416 7*764 K 10*444 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    svchost.exe 1692 15*760 K 12*756 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    ADSMSrv.exe 1804 904 K 2*376 K ADSMSrv
    AsLdrSrv.exe 1816 1*320 K 3*216 K ASLDR Service
    MsgTranAgt.exe 3728 1*020 K 2*616 K
    HControl.exe 3780 8*424 K 6*204 K
    ATKOSD.exe 1960 992 K 2*984 K
    KBFiltr.exe 1592 1*064 K 2*764 K
    WDC.exe 2188 2*628 K 4*000 K
    wcourier.exe 3792 2*064 K 4*572 K
    ASPG.exe 3804 2*308 K 3*364 K
    BatteryLife.exe 3812 1*724 K 4*072 K
    ACMON.exe 3820 2*768 K 6*260 K
    GFNEXSrv.exe 1832 912 K 2*388 K GFNEXSrv
    AvastSvc.exe 1860 21*068 K 20*956 K avast! Service AVAST Software
    spoolsv.exe 1032 5*952 K 8*132 K Undersystem för utskriftshanteraren Microsoft Corporation
    svchost.exe 960 14*156 K 12*940 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    agrsmsvc.exe 2200 1*004 K 2*432 K Agere Soft Modem Call Progress Service Agere Systems
    bgsvcgen.exe 2232 1*068 K 2*744 K B's Recorder GOLD Service Library B.H.A Corporation
    svchost.exe 2260 2*284 K 3*176 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    LSSrvc.exe 2296 1*364 K 3*292 K LightScribe Service Hewlett-Packard Company
    svchost.exe 2436 2*368 K 4*744 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    spmgr.exe 2480 3*532 K 4*832 K spmgr Module
    svchost.exe 2496 3*744 K 5*440 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    TomTomHOMEService.exe 2532 824 K 2*160 K Windows Service for TomTom HOME TomTom
    svchost.exe 2572 796 K 2*248 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    WLIDSVC.EXE 2616 6*344 K 8*976 K
    WLIDSVCM.EXE 2776 1*160 K 2*740 K
    SearchIndexer.exe 2728 39*656 K 8*980 K Indexerare för Microsoft Windows Search Microsoft Corporation
    TrustedInstaller.exe 2940 18*164 K 18*212 K Windows Modules Installer Microsoft Corporation
    wmpnetwk.exe 4348 5*080 K 7*052 K Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service Microsoft Corporation
    svchost.exe 5900 1*904 K 6*256 K Värdprocess för Windows-tjänster Microsoft Corporation
    lsass.exe 796 3*408 K 1*944 K Process för lokala säkerhetsfunktioner Microsoft Corporation
    lsm.exe 808 2*160 K 3*664 K
    csrss.exe 720 2*300 K 9*396 K
    winlogon.exe 780 2*272 K 4*860 K
    explorer.exe 3420 < 0.01 26*592 K 30*564 K Utforskaren Microsoft Corporation
    MSASCui.exe 4052 6*272 K 5*540 K Windows Defender User Interface Microsoft Corporation
    CLMLSvc.exe 4060 < 0.01 4*708 K 6*244 K CyberLink MediaLibray Service CyberLink
    HControlUser.exe 1140 1*364 K 3*392 K HControlUser
    ATKOSD2.exe 2168 1*636 K 4*120 K ATKOSD2 ASUS
    RtHDVCpl.exe 2724 10*744 K 7*152 K HD Audio Control Panel Realtek Semiconductor
    P4P.exe 2956 3*076 K 5*432 K PowerForPhone
    AsScrPro.exe 1628 < 0.01 1*924 K 5*060 K AsScrPro ASUS
    SynTPEnh.exe 3308 < 0.01 2*944 K 5*944 K Synaptics TouchPad Enhancements Synaptics, Inc.
    SynTPHelper.exe 4392 1*000 K 3*168 K
    SetPoint.exe 4012 5*460 K 8*592 K Logitech SetPoint Event Manager (UNICODE) Logitech, Inc.
    KHALMNPR.exe 2820 < 0.01 5*800 K 5*128 K Logitech KHAL Main Process Logitech, Inc.
    FLVSrvc.exe 1244 < 0.01 1*348 K 3*336 K FLV Service for Freecorder 4 Applian Technologies, Inc.
    AvastUI.exe 1280 < 0.01 5*780 K 4*192 K avast! Antivirus AVAST Software
    igfxtray.exe 3588 1*752 K 4*284 K igfxTray Module Intel Corporation
    hkcmd.exe 3260 2*392 K 5*852 K hkcmd Module Intel Corporation
    igfxpers.exe 1128 1*688 K 4*536 K persistence Module Intel Corporation
    jusched.exe 3576 1*396 K 3*428 K Java(TM) Update Scheduler Sun Microsystems, Inc.
    sidebar.exe 3552 < 0.01 40*660 K 43*604 K Windows Sidpanelen Microsoft Corporation
    sidebar.exe 4396 < 0.01 20*288 K 20*364 K Windows Sidpanelen Microsoft Corporation
    GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe 1764 < 0.01 4*540 K 1*936 K GoogleToolbarNotifier Google Inc.
    ehtray.exe 3236 1*812 K 1*532 K Media Center Tray Applet Microsoft Corporation
    wmpnscfg.exe 4120 2*104 K 4*796 K Konfigurationsprogram för nätverksdelning i Windows Media Player Microsoft Corporation
    Personal.exe 4312 < 0.01 3*508 K 7*592 K Nexus Personal Technology Nexus AB
    firefox.exe 1780 < 0.01 303*396 K 286*344 K Firefox Mozilla Corporation
    procexp.exe 5208 0.77 20*780 K 37*184 K Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

    I don't know if any of these processes is causing the Paragon startup problem or if it is a problem with Paragon program itself.

    Someone else having the same problem?
    Any suggestions would be appreciated.
     
  5. Mech_An

    Mech_An Registered Member

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    In your processes there is nothing related to Paragon. Are this processes for all users? There is a check-box to display all processes in Task Manager. Maybe something is running under Administrator account.
     
  6. u234

    u234 Registered Member

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    Yes, this is processes for all users.

    Actually I could get the program (Paragon B&R) to run twice, after a very long wait, but it could not figure out how the partitions was placed or formatted.

    There is 3 partitions on the HDD:

    1 hidden Fat32 12GB with "Express Gate" (instant-on environment, web browser, skype and other apps).

    2 Primary partition NTFS 116GB C: with Vista OS.

    3 Logical partition NTFS 105GB D: Data.

    Paragon reports the hidden Fat32 as C: and the NTFS 116GB Vista as D: and the NTFS 105GB Data as Unformatted.

    I have tried the EASEUS Todo backup free 2.51 and everything worked fine with no problem (except it has less features).

    Edit:
    That was what the program reported the first time it started up.
    The second time the Paragon B&R started up it correctly reported the NTFS 116GB Vista as C: but still wrongly reported the NTFS 105GB Data as Unformatted.
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2011
  7. Mech_An

    Mech_An Registered Member

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    could you please send me stunact.log from C;\Program Files\Paragon Software\program in private message?

    It appears last partition borders exceed HDD capacity or a crossed with previous partition C.
     
  8. Mech_An

    Mech_An Registered Member

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    @u234,

    According to your LOG there is FAT32 partition which covers Data NTFS. As 2 partitions have almost same starts and ends- Data is shown as unformatted.

    It' shard to say why FAT32 is created beyond the NTFS Data.

    Could you please post here a screenshot of Windows Disk Management?
    * right-click on 'My computer' and choose 'Manage';
    * select 'Disk Management' in 'Storage';
    * maximize the window;
    * click 'PrintScreen' key on the keyboard to capture the screen into the Windows Clipboard;
    * paste the image and save it as JPG, GIF or PNG file;
    * post the image here

    Also please specify if Data partition is encrypted.
     
  9. u234

    u234 Registered Member

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    No partition is encrypted and everything is as it was originally made at Asus, except I have added a samsung 1TB HDD (Data E:).

    Attached You will find a sreenshot of the "Disk Management".
    This is a swedish version of Windows, "Felfri"=No fault.
     

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  10. TheMozart

    TheMozart Former Poster

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    Happened to me as well. I had to remove Paragon FREE.

    Whenever I turn on my USB hard drive, Paragon refuses to load and says:

    "Operation Failed. Paragon Backup & Recovery could not be started because some product that uses the Hard Disk Engine must be already running. Please close that program first and try again"
     
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