Old HIPS vs New Up to Date HIPS?

Are the old programs still worth using or is it that new threat types need to be addressed and so programs like Samarai and ProcessGuard and System Safety Monitor and such arent worth having anymore, rather stuff like Malware Defender and DefenseWall are much much better?

What say you?

 

I Would still use ProcessGuard if it was still supported and worked on Win7!

TH

 

I would still be using ProSecurity if it actually still existed in the Windows 7 universe.

 

So would I, without hesitation. It was the only HIPS that never confused the hell out of me, never popped up 6,000 times during a normal install of a program, ALWAYS remembered my answers (idiotic Comodo, I'm looking at you), and just generally never did anything stupid that caused me problems. I miss it. HIPS functionality never really changes, and programs, for the most part are still installing the exact same way they did years ago, which is why HIPS don't really get updated much.

You can add in features that really don't do much but give a developer a reason to charge more, but HIPS basically stays the same.

 

Don't take my word for it, but I'd think it would depend on the HIPS. If its ability to intercept malware and attacks before they actually caused damage was good enough... I dunno though.

On the other hand, Samurai barely qualifies as a HIPS to start with; its driver intercepting component is very outdated, will not block certain drivers from loading, and may interfere with other drivers. I wouldn't use it.

 

AppDefend/RegDefend (Ghost Security) is still available for Windows XP http://www.ghostsecurity.com/. I am not sure if you can still purchase or not. It worked very nicely (especially the last stable beta of AD 2/RD 3). Development and support ended about two years ago. I am not sure if Jason Annice is even involved with it anymore. The forum is in the Wilders Security archived section (along with old ProcessGuard forum).

 

Thanks for the replies. I have Samurai running right now....with Avast and Winpatrol.

Winpatrol is a light classical HIPS that many still run. I will strike Samurai off the list.

ProcessGuard
System Safety Monitor
AppDefend/RegDefend

First Ive heard of ProsSecurity, Ill check it out. Im a bit of an antiquarian, so its appealing to me to run the classics. Being that Im still on XP, too.

What System Hardening programs do you recommend?

SafeXP
Seconfig
XPAntiSpy
HardenIt!
Computer Security Tool
Security & Privacy Complete

Also is RegRun still highly regarded?

 

Old HIPS never die (they just smell that way). Proof: give Antihook a try.

 

I have very good results with AntiHook.

 

AntiHook true that

 

Agree 100%. And I have only used the free version of ProcessGuard.
Open all my programs,allow or deny them,come back a few hours and allow things like Screensaver,and cleanmem,that I have forgotten,and you never hear a peep out of it,till something comes up.
Contrast that with interminable Comodo pop-ups,ignoring decisions already made..
When ProcessGuard pops-up,it gets my attention,when Comodo pops-up,I just want to shut it the hell up.

rat

 

If Comodo Internet Security v4 is pop up noisy? It shouldn't be!

 

Most any of the recently developed granular HIPS can be set up to render simple, one-time-only prompts. It comes down to how much you want your "hand held" for you.

 

Sadly it is, Dragons. To be honest, my own opinion is Comodo quality just keeps plummeting. I was a HUGE fan back during their early firewall days. They keep trying to simplify things and they're just messing it up all to hell. The new firewall/HIPS is the noisiest, most confusing release they've had. It never shuts up, it couldn't remember an answer I gave it even if I branded my answer into with a hot iron, there are ALWAYS pending files no matter if I go through and remove them and don't install another thing for days, and, it's usually the same stupid files I checked and removed before.

I felt like I was holding Comodo's hand, not the other way around. It would take the majority of the Wilders community giving Comodo a thumbs up and a lot of positive tests and screenshots before I ever even THOUGHT of letting them anywhere near my system again.

 

Anybody have any thoughts on EQSecure Pro?

 

is there a pro version buddy?i didnt know

 

Their website calls it EQSecure V4.2 Professional Edition.

http://www.3dprotect.com/en/eqsecure.html

 

thanks

 

I used Antihook in XP-SP2. Can't remember what version it was. It was great.
It stopped working once XP changed to SP3

 

Ill check anti hook out, but I am running XP SP3,

 

So does EQSecure V4.2 support the English language now?

 

LOL

I keep trying new things, but in the end I keep going back to Processguard 3.15(full) with Kerio 2.15 Tight and Light.

Processguard is one program I don't at all regret buying way back when.
I'm not so sure about the current state of Diamond CS though.

 

ProcessGuard paid version

 

Several days ago I trialed the free version (2.56, I think) on my box -- WinXP SP3. It worked okay, However, if you want to use its rules editor, it makes you install a version 1 of Net framework. Bah!

 

Yes Sir!! I didn't buy Process Guard,as I really only wanted an anti-executable.
(although I would be glad to have the full version!!)

And kerio 2.1.5 still does a firewalls job for me.

If I need HIPS,I will turn to the ORIGINAL HIPS,ProcessGuard!!

As for Diamond CS,I regret to say,it does not look too good.

maybe something hopeful will come from that way.

All Respect,Rat.