No such thing as 100%

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by ssj100, Apr 12, 2009.

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  1. cqpreson

    cqpreson Registered Member

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    Maybe doing everything in Virtual Machine is a good way to stay safe:D .
     
  2. wat0114

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    Imo, the vm I'm using, Virtualbox, is fantastic, not only for security reasons, but just for general testing of software and experimenting. A few seconds is all it takes to get back to a previous pristine state. It is the best software I've stumbled upon in recent memory.
     
  3. Ilya Rabinovich

    Ilya Rabinovich Developer

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    Especially, its ability to use OpenGL/DirectX of a host computer.
     
  4. trjam

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    nothing a 100 percent? Well 99.?? is getting awfully damn close.;)
     
  5. Rmus

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    There is no reason scientifically why one can't declare for 100% in one's own experience.

    Scientists will tell you that there are no scientific facts, just hypotheses/premises waiting to be disproved.

    I accept the premise with 100% certainty that if I throw an apple into the air, it will return to the ground. Numerous tests confirm this, and so it stands with me until proven otherwise.

    I can say that no URL with a malware-embedded attack that I've seen will get past my properly configured browser. Until I find one that does, I will depend on the browser 100% to prevent these types of attacks

    I can say that if I install software which I've verified as safe by checking the vendor, and how others have responded to it, it is safe. This stands as a premise with me until proven otherwise.

    Note that I'm speaking from my own experience, and may have no relevance to anyone else's experience.

    -rich
     
  6. Toby75

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    Well said Rmus :thumb:

    I can say that when I have Outpost Pro set to block most, set to notify me of any changed or new executable, and set web control to maximum...

    malware simply doesn't stand a chance.
     
  7. Kees1958

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    Agree with Rmus,

    When you focus on reducing the attack surface and staying out of risky places, in practise it would be very unlikely that one becomes a victim of malware.

    Staying out of risky places with OpenDNS, WOT, IE's smartfilter etc

    Reducing attack surface level: policy management/UAC + SRP deny or third party softwares like AE, or execution/image control of HIPS/FW's (outpost, OA, CFW)

    Regards Kees
     
  8. Franklin

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    Ah you Wilders folks make me laugh.

    Reduce the attack surface, lock down ten thousands of this and ten thousands of that so the only thing you can do is look at your screensaver :thumbd:

    Get real and start using a full blown admin account with the apps in my siggy, learn their capabilities and you will be 100% protected.
     
  9. TheIgster

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    Pretty sure Sandboxie and Returnil don't work on 64-bit Windows 7 systems, but thanks for the advice... :cautious:
     
  10. Boost

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    Agree! Gotta love it when you see app this + this + this and this,create this rule and I'm now bulletproof~!:D
    Keep it simmmmple! S-I-M-P-L-E
     
  11. firzen771

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    agreed, i culdnt live without being on Admin, way to irritating to be on LUA considering what i do. i like to be able to use my computer the way it was intended, not be so restricted that i cant even move a file from 1 folder to another etc...
     
  12. BlueZannetti

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    But the counterpoint is, operate from a limited user account (LUA) and do nothing else, none of those apps and so on, and you are well protected from most eventualities aside from self-inflicted events.

    There's no lock down in doing this, no configuration, just make the account limited. Want to provide a lot more operational flexibility? Install SuRun in it's default configuration, elevate as appropriate, and you can basically do anything you desire.

    More secure will always equate to less convenient, this trade-off is always operational. However, less convenient does not inexorably equate to inconvenient.

    Blue
     
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  13. trjam

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    I cant argue your point except in the cases where a whole family shares a PC. Each with their own individual needs. In cases like this keeping simple is almost a gimmie. Kids dont understand pop-ups. Keeping a clean back up image and in most cases a good security suite is still the most popular to meet these needs.
     
  14. jmonge

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    hey buddy what is Kunfu?haha:D i mean Kafu :):)
     
  15. jmonge

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    An Excellent and well said post. I totally agree.

    I can also say with 100 percent certainty by denying all unknown executables from running nothing can get passed Sandboxie and MD.
     
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