New AIP Versions

Not tried an activation without Internet ! Sorry. Better ask support@rectiphy.com

 

Sorry to say that my impression of this free version is (due to the Linux recovery environment).

First of all, it takes 'forever' to load on my laptop and refuses to load on my desktop (RedHat was a bad Linux distro choice)!

Secondly, the boot CD is strictly for recovery - there is no backup provision!

So while I really liked the AIP Desktop Edition (trial), this free one leaves a lot to be desired.

Aaron

 

Have to follow Aaron's post with the same results. ISO wouldn't even load on my SATA-only desktop environment, and took forever with many errors of sorts on my older IDE-only desktop. RESTORE only available and nowhere did anything ask for my ACTIVATION information (I think there's something we don't know here )

Any more info, greatly received.

 

For activation, you have to install it in Windows, so that you can do your hot imaging and incrementals too.

Best regards,

KOR!

 

The backup is in Windows through hot imaging and incremental too. Maybe, we can all ask for plugins so that with WAIK, we can build our own WinPE v3.1 rescue disk, just like for IFW.

Best regards,

KOR!

P.S. When you run the setup from the ISO, it creates AIP Desktop Edition and then you can activate it.

 

thanks for the email will send them a question right now.

 

Hi Frog,

Thanks for the confirmation on the (terrible) AIP Linux Boot Disk. If you really want to install (and activate) the program, just insert the CD while in Windows and if it doesn't autostart, open it and click on the Launch exe.

Aaron

 

Hi KOR,

As I'm into cold-imaging that doesn't do me much good.

Aaron

 

Hi Aaron,

Then we (Wilders) members, should request them for plugins so that we can build our own WinPE v3.1 rescue disk with WAIK, which will have backup, restore and many more functions.

Best regards,

KOR!

 

KOR,

If they did that they would essentially be giving away their Desktop Edition for free (not likely to happen)!

Imho, a far more achievable solution would be to suggest they use another Linux distro (such as that used by ATI and Macrium) plus adding full backup provisions to their iso.

Aaron

 

KOR and Aaron, thanks for the obvious. I was so deep in the forest (of Cold Imaging) I couldn't see through the trees...

Anyway, tried a Windows install of the HOT imaging version... NADA. AIP takes out my ESS (ESET Security System) security software in a big way. It says it needs to activate something in ESS to finish its install (all features are already active in ESS), I allow it, it goes through its machinations then asks for a reboot... I say "Sure!"

Following the reBOOT, I run AIP and it complains it can't see its service. I use TaskMgr to verify the presence of the AIP service (2-copies, actually)... all looks fine.

I take a quick look at ESS and it's completely broken, firewall and AV damaged. ESS requests that I reinstall... I try and ESS says I don't have enough privs to replace the currently installed files (I'm running as System ADMIN at this time). This happened during both installs... the first with all ESS features active and the 2nd with the firewall and AV deactivated for the AIP installations.

This was a big mess and woulda cost me plenty of time if it wasn't for my always present sidekick, Rollback RX... pick a snapshot (taken right before the AIP attempts) and rollback, DONE... back to where I was before all these shenanigans started.

I don't know what AIP has to say about other security systems during installation, but it surely will mess up an ESS protected system (XPsp3, lots RAM, lots HDD)... and I don't know how long it will take to recover.

I'll try the install on an unprotected system, and if successful, I'll install ESS afterward to see what happens.

Be careful...

 

Or maybe it's incompatible with Rollback RX ?

 

From what I'm reading, TRF experienced a compatiblity issue between AIP and ESS, not Rollback Rx. I've cold-imaged my RB system with the AIP 3.0.3 WinPE Boot-CD without any problems (but there could be hot-imaging issues)!

Aaron

 

I took my bench system (XPsp3, IDE-based, Rollback RX protected)) and uninstalled ESS, reBOOTed the system then installed the HOT imaging version of AIP FREE... all went well. Following a reBOOT I re-installed ESS and all went well. AIP now runs and doesn't complain about anything... I will test the imaging on Monday.

The problem only occurred during installation on an ESS active system.

 

Hi Frog,

Thanks for the update. As indicated above, I have successfully cold-imaged (and restored) my XP-RB system with the latest build of AIP (using the 'include free space' option), so I'll be interested in your AIP hot-image outcome (if that's your intent).

Curiously, when I first cold-imaged my XP-RB system using AIP 3.0.0 the restoration failed - which I explained to AIP-Support (in detail) ...now restoring my AIP 3.0.3 cold-image was successful (RB with all snapshots were fully functional)!

Aaron

 

Greetings!

Did they ever tell you what the problem was with your v3.0.0 restoration failure?

 

Don't you do it Aaron; don't go to the dark side. If you do then I think I might be the only (loyal) DS user left.

I see nothing in this that wasn't in the 3.x version of ShadowProtect, and I don't like that because the WinPE disc it includes is limited in its features. I prefer something that will allow me to do more, like Active@book disk. I use that and DS.

 

Does free edition contains increamantal or differential backup.
I am unable to find.

 

Have you receive any reply from AIP?

 

Thanks for the explanation !

 

I think it's possible, not tried it yet. Did you try creating a scheduled backup (one each week for example). Once done, and the base backup created, right-click on the job in the schedule list and see if there is "incremental" mentioned.

 

I don't know if you read my concluding remark in Post #74 of my Cold-Imaging Competition thread, but my thoughts on the matter haven't changed (yet).

 

I never heard back from AIP-Support, but a week later a new build was released. Hmm, I can't help but wonder...

 

Dear Aaron,

Your scienctific test is not fair and you are not comparing apples with apples. You have compared the paid Windows version of DS to the trial Linux version of IFL.

A fair comparision would be paid Windows version of DS to the paid Windows version of IFW.

Even then it reminds me about the story I used to hear a lot as a child about the race between The Tortoise and the Hare!

Best regards,

KOR!

 

Another consideration should be taken into account is for less than $30, Terabyte gives one 3 lincenses of IFW, 3 lincenses of IFL and 3 lincenses of IFD. Add, to that the WinPE 3.1 rescue CD/DVD can be easily built for cold imaging. Thus, each license of IFW, IFL and IFD with WinPE v3.1 rescue CD/DVD is for about $10.

Where as, Drive Snapshot gives you for about $60, only one license and no WinPE 3.1 rescue CD/DVD.

How many people in their homes have more than one computer? Most people have three or more computers.

Kind regards,

KOR!