MBAM & Evidence Eliminator

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

OK, I will, thanks.

Or AVG, BitDefender, Avast, Nod32, Norton, QuickHeal, Panda, Avira, Kaspersky, SUPERantispyware, Spyware Doctor, SpyBot S&D ?

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Not sure why you are talking to me about it. Ask the users in the thread, the members who said brothersoft were purveyors of malware, the numerous other security sites that list brothersoft as a bad site - and ask MBAM why they have now removed brothersoft?

Nothing to do with me - as I say, I dont use MBAM

I have never had an issue with where softeare is downloaded - I have only ever focused on the software itself - is the software clean, does it do what it says etc? MBAM had the issue with how SW is marketed and where it come s from - they also gave credence to the sites which listed brothersoft as a bad site in their attack on ee, then later contradicted themselves by saying they did not believe in that site!

 

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EE is a known rogue app... look at it's history. I will never install it on any computer I ever own, or for anybody else.

As for MBAM it is top notch software right up there with SAS.
They have removed all download links on there website to brothersoft and requested MBAM be removed from there site.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

It is not a rogue app. Terrible advertising and marketing techneques, I agree, but it does what it says, has no malware, adware etc and has more functionality than any similar product.

I have used it for several years, as have several people I know, without any problems ever.

If you have any evidence to show ee does anything dodgy, I suggest you post it here. - You wont, as there is no evidence! (and Im not talking about how its advertised or sold - lets stick to the application itself)

In fact, I will offer to give anyone here €100 via PayPal if they can present any evidence that the aplication itself is dodgy.

Cheers,

Chris

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Hi

I think an application's website and marketing techniques is related to an app.

For instance, EE's ads is exactly the same as other rogue apps and malware.

MBAM linking to a site which has malware was bad, but they've already removed when users complained about it.

Also, this isn't any hard evidence or anything, but some people here in Wilders have reported serious problems after using EE.

Thanks

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

This would kind of hard I just tried there so called 30 day trial and they want $75 for someone to try there software!!!!

I downloaded and installed EE and it will not run unless you have bought a license. No free 30 day trial

Sorry but this is a scam, I won't throw away money on a known rogue app when there are better free alternatives. (eraser, ccleaner)

Now back to my previous image, Thank god for True Image

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

You are so close to getting €100 - you state its a known rogue app - just present your evidence to substanciate this and the money is yours....

For a so called security site frequented by so called experts, I find the fact that people just keep saying "well known rogue app" and cant find one single scrap of eveidence anywhere to back it up quite worrying.

 

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Sorry I will not throw away money on something I don't want. Anybody that wants test it can, but I won't. Anyway anybody would be only making $25 after having to spend $75 on there software.

Would they really refund your money if you don't like there software?? I doubt it. And I'm not about to find out.

This is a scam if I ever saw one.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Why do you defend Evidence Eliminator?
Robin Hood Software makes claims like it defeats forensic equipment costing more than US$7000, uses deceptive advertising, and spams. Also, as TonyKlein said, by your logic all major security companies should be listed as rogue as well.

 

Re: Best Eraser

With reference to post 101 and https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1248384&postcount=72

"Evidence-Eliminator cannot handle modern Windows hard drives."

This is factually incorrect. It can.

"It can't handle anything that's come out since 1996. It can't handle Microsoft's NTFS file system."

This is a lie, it works on NTFS

"It was written before the NT 2K XP family of Windows came into vogue. It was last updated before the New Millennium - before Windows 2000, before Windows XP, before Windows Me - and it wasn't updated for Windows XP Service Pack 2 and it won't be updated for Windows Vista either. Robin Hood have no people to do it."

Again, another lie, it was updated for all these, including Vista.

"It overloads your Registry on install, threatening to take down your entire system;"

Untrue

"it takes forever to do simple disk scans;"

Untrue, its very light

"it can't perform proper shredding"

Another lie.

"and it has any number of hidden revenge mechanisms should you decide you don't want to put up with it anymore"

Untrue.

Other than a few inaccuracies, not a bad analysis.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Not by my logic at all. If you take time to read what I have said, you will see I have made my position clear. An app should be judged by itself, not who made it, their advertising or where it is downloaded from.

This thread started as someone pointed out that MBAM listed the ee app as rogue software when the application itself is not rogue. MBAM argue that rogue status does not have to be a function of the application itself, but can be as a result of just how it is marketed etc.

I found out from another thread on Wilders that MBAM had partnered with Brothersoft and a wilders member had pointed out that Brothersoft was listed as a purveyor of malware by various respevted security sites. I therefore made the point that by MBAM logic, they could list their own app as rogue.

Not my logic my friend, but theirs.

 

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I just cant agree with that . I assume that EE does updates of some sort and the same people that have no issue with rogue advertising are the same people that would have no issue slipping malware into an update if they planned to abandon the project and wanted to make some quick malware $

We broke the Brothersoft connection because people were right (even though multiple other legit apps are on that site) . IMO is it true that MBAM should not have anything to do with with them because its strong anti-rogue position .

 

Re: Best Eraser

ChrisP - How about some screenshots? Three in particular:

Right-click "My Computer", on the computer that you have EE on, select "Properties" and take a screenshot of the main screen there (see example like mine);

Do a C/A/D and take a screenshot of your running processes (complete with how much RAM is being used by each one (see example like mine);

Find the E.E folder on your HD, right-click the EE .exe and select "Properties" and take a screenshot of that (I took one of the SpywareBlaster .exe as an example, since I obviously don't have EE on any of my computers).

Thanks. Pete

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Evidence Eliminator wasn't listed as rogue because Robin Hood Software took up on a free download mirror. (I, however, am not saying Brothersoft is the best place to download from.)
Also, Evidence Eliminator happens to be on Brothersoft: http://www.brothersoft.com/evidence-eliminator-31439.html

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

$75!! I'll rather take a vacation on Cuantanamo.

 

Re: Best Eraser

Hi Spy1:

Not sure how to position the captures, but they will all be here. For the properties of the ee programme itself, the creation date will be wrong as one of the security features of ee is that it randomises the creation, accessed, modified data of all files on the PC. I have included a cap of the ee seting to show this.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

75 bucks, that sounds like a deal compared to EE's website.....150 bucks.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

You "assume" they will have no issue slipping malware into an update.... do you?

Who knows what will happen to any software in the future. Look at Ewido, they were bought out and then the new company did not honour the lifetime licence. They could easily have been bought out by a company that slipped malware in the app - its impossible to say.

My point is, if malware is slipped in to an app, its at that point that I expect a scanner such as SAS, a2 or MBAM to pop up and warn me - not when the software author does not like how a product is marketed.

Anyway, I believe we will never see eye to eye on this, however, I maintain I am correst in my view that ee as an application itself receives too much inacurate criticism and 95% of what is said about it is completely wrong. You only need to look at the complete pack of lies Radsoft have said about ee in the eraser thread in the privacy section here. Every single thing they have said is untrue.

Yep, Robin Hood Software use terrible marketing and inapropriate advertising and probably dont manage their resellers properly - but the application itself is good - very good. Why not focus criticim on Robin Hood Software and not the application? In criticising the app and promoting complete lies about it not working etc, people are only hurting other members here as they will be mislead and choose an app that wont work as well.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Why are you praising EE so much

Why don't they have free 30 day trial So they can take your money and run.

I will never fork over $75 to $150 on software that I have no idea what it does.

And according to its history it is defently rogue software. History speaks for itself.

 

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I would sugest Im defending it against lies and misinformation, rather than praising it - though, in my experience, it is very good. Why dont you ask the question "Why are so meny people publishing complete lies about it?"

I dont know why they dont have a trial. Just because they dont, does not mean its a scam or a rogue app. Lots of software has no trial.

"And according to its history it is defently rogue software. History speaks for itself." - Again, what history - other than advertising? You are just repeating the same thing again with no facts or evidence or experience of the application.

"Dont bother me with the facts, my mind is made up"

 

Re: Best Eraser

Okay, thank you, Chris. Pete

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Sounds to me like your praising it....

Every software I have ever seen has free 15 or 30 day trail. (99.9%) Except EE

Have you read there 30 day guarantee Will my computer really blow up if I don't spend $150 on there software

What a scam!!!!

Fact: EE causes virus and worms. http://ee-sucks.tripod.com/

And let me remind you of all the facts... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_Eliminator

Lots of links on the bottom on that page that are all fact.

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Right, so my copy of ee causes viruses and worms does it.

No copy of ee has ever done such a thing.

Just the usual linke to misinformation and lies like the junk from Radsoft.

"Evidence Eliminator gives you cancer"

Remember, there is €100 waiting for you if you can find anything wrong with the app itself - eg it containing malware or not doing what it claims.

Think my money is safe!

 

Re: MBAM & Evidense Eliminator

Sorry I believe Radsoft more then you!!! Are you sure you don't work for EE

Did you read this thread https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=209024

And why has it not been professionally tested. Are they hiding something. The 30 day money back guarantee is a joke, and its so embedded in there website it takes forever to find.

Keep your money. I will not shell out $150 for junk software.

 

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Nope, I dont work for them. If you believe Radsoft, lets take a look at what they are saying about ee today, on their website:

"Evidence-Eliminator cannot handle modern Windows hard drives."

Untrue.

"It can't handle anything that's come out since 1996. It can't handle Microsoft's NTFS file system."

Again, this is untrue, it works with all FAT and all NTFS drives.

"It was written before the NT 2K XP family of Windows came into vogue. It was last updated before the New Millennium - before Windows 2000, before Windows XP, before Windows Me - and it wasn't updated for Windows XP Service Pack 2 and it won't be updated for Windows Vista either. Robin Hood have no people to do it."

Another lie. ee was updated for all versions of Windows including Vista.

"It overloads your Registry on install, threatening to take down your entire system;"

Untrue - what are these people on?

"it takes forever to do simple disk scans;"

Nope, again, another lie, its as fast as any other eraser.

"it can't perform proper shredding;"

Another lie - there are several cases where it has ben proved to securely wipe data in court.

"and it has any number of hidden revenge mechanisms should you decide you don't want to put up with it anymore."

Another lie. If you uninstall it, it is gone.

"It will do things like put pictures of mean people behind bars on your desktop"

Indeed it does this. It does this if you use a keygen to register it - and only under these conditions.

Everything Radsoft say is a lie / untrue.

the thread you refer to says nothing special, some for and some against.

Your claim that is has not been professionally tested is untrue, since there are several linke in this thread alone which point to it being mentioned in court as haveing sucessfully wiped data. Can you find anything like this for any other eraser?

The bottom line is its not malware or a rogue app. It is very good software which is marketed in a bad way.

And yes, I will keep my money, as you have not presented any evidence that supports your unfounded claim that it is a rogue app, contains Malware or does not do what it claims.