Mandatory U.S tracking technology for 2015 new car models.

Discussion in 'privacy problems' started by EncryptedBytes, Apr 19, 2012.

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  1. EncryptedBytes
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    What could very well become law beginning in 2015, all new cars in the United States will likely need to be fitted with data-recording devices very similar to the devices currently used in aircraft. The U.S. Senate has already passed a bill that will make the devices a requirement, and the House is expected to approve the bill as well. Section 31406 of Senate Bill 1813 states that mandatory event data recorders must in installed in all cars starting in 2015, and it outlines civil penalties that will be levied against violators.

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  2. Palancar
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    Just how big can "Big Brother" get? LOL!!
  3. zero_Phil
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    That's got to be the final straw - somebody turn the lights out on their way out.
  4. Serapis
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    I can see them requiring cams to be placed in homes to "protect" you from break ins. Cams in bathrooms will be mandatory just incase someone faints or bangs their head on the sink. A fibreoptic camera will be installed in the rectums of all citizens to monitor their health an well being to alert them on the event of colon tumors. :rolleyes: :doubt: :argh: :argh: :argh:

    I love how privacy and freedom are emphasized everywhere in the great land of America, yet it is nowhere to be found.
  5. dw426
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    A black box, minus audio recording capability, is in no way sinister. In fact they are invaluable in determining what might have gone wrong. That being said, it's way too easy to produce a modified one and add all sorts of goodies like GPS (though if you have anything like OnStar or TomTom, you already have it) you can't turn off.

    If its anything at all like an aircraft black box, there's little to worry about. For one thing, if you're in a legitimate accident and survive, well, you either are at fault or you aren't. If you're dead, the contents of that black box won't be that much of a concern to you. I do understand the concern though, and it's something to watch.
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    With the increasing number of net-capable TVs, you're basically already being spied on. The "smarter" your toys and appliances are, the more likely it is you'll be tracked/watched in some way. No, that's not a call to return to rotary phones and Teletones, just something to be aware of.
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  7. tgell
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    Most production cars already have these black boxes (EDR's). GM's especially.

    Code:
    http://www.harristechnical.com/downloads/cdrlist.pdf
    More up to date list.

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    http://www.rimkus.com/uploads/pdfs/Event_Data_Recorder.pdf
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  9. chronomatic
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    Not only that, but I saw a talk at the RSA conference this year where a guy was talking about how he can remotely hack the various computers put into cars nowadays. Even critical systems like the brakes can be turned off. :argh:

    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5FeJ6DEaJw

    The dude talks about hacking cars at 27:30. The rest of the talk is worth watching if you are interested in cryptography as well.
  10. Noob
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    Didn't they just approve the CISPA law?
    So much for SOPA . . . and look what happened. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
  11. TheWindBringeth
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    No. The House of Representatives passed a bill abbreviated CISPA. The Senate hasn't passed a bill yet. After both sides agree on a bill it goes to the President and if signed THEN becomes law. So there is theoretically still an opportunity to influence things.
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  14. Noob
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    Wow, Insurance based on how you drive?
    Although i usually drive kinda slow and maintain a stable speed i also every now and then step on the gas a little for fun (NOT driving recklessly, just straight line acceleration etc.) now that would be hard to do with this. :D :rolleyes:
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