"Mamutu: The end of an era"

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  1. Fabian Wosar

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    As long as Online Armor stays profitable, there is no need to discontinue it. That is the way it always works. If a product can't sustain the developers working on it and you don't have the means to cross finance it, you simply can't afford to continue the development.
     
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  2. Brandonn2010

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    Speaking of OA, are it and EEK coming out soon? You said they would around the time EAM 8 was released, which was over a week ago.
     
  3. Fabian Wosar

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    EEK has actually entered public beta yesterday. If you have beta updates enabled, you already got it.

    No update for Online Armor as of yet.
     
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  5. StillAlive

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    Mamutu v3.0.0.20
    http://download12.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://download11.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://download10.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://download9.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://download8.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://download7.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://download5.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://download4.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://download3.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://download2.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://download1.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://download.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120513160527/http://download2.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20130426130152/http://download3.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20130424202418/http://download2.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20130412013924/http://download2.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20130407082334/http://download2.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20130221185516/http://download2.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20121116082640/http://download2.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20121114192744/http://download2.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20121031134834/http://download3.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20111109150329/http://download3.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe

    Mamutu v3.0.0.0
    http://web.archive.org/web/20111016122055/http://download2.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20110907032044/http://download3.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20110810123238/http://download3.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20110721181333/http://download2.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe

    Mamutu v2.0.0.0
    http://web.archive.org/web/20100527031147/http://download2.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20100527031238/http://download6.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20100527030715/http://download1.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20100526210903/http://download3.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20100519140257/http://download6.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
    http://web.archive.org/web/20100514000415/http://download6.emsisoft.com/MamutuSetup.exe
     
  6. Noob

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    ~ Removed StillAlive's Quote Containing Direct Downloads ~

    What is this about? :doubt:
     
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  7. StillAlive

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    It is about direct links to download Mamutu Behavior Blocker. It is impossible to download it from the official page any more.

    Also, if to make a thorough search in internet, it is possible to find a "free" Mamutu account (e-mail + password). I found one (until 2014).
     
  8. NormanF

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    They've discontinued work on it.

    I used to run Threatfire until it became abandonware. Then I found a BB module has been incorporated into the ZA OS Firewall. Pretty cool! I no longer a need a separate stand-alone BB security product anymore. And for similar reasons, Emsisoft is following the same approach with adding it into its main anti-malware suite. :thumb:
     
  9. Rasheed187

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    Doesn´t the same goes for BB´s? And it´s not complety true, HIPS might even notify you about strange behavior even if malware is already installed. I also never used learning mode btw, because it´s indeed kinda risky.

    I didn´t test it my self, but I´m almost sure that the things that Mamutu missed in the YouTube test, would have been caught red handed by tools like Neoava Guard for example. ;)
     
  10. Noob

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    I've always said it, Mamutu still needs to be improved. It still doesnt alerts you of a ton of things. (Including malware)
     
  11. EASTER

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    After further review and careful thought in addition in light of Fabian's stubborn unrelenting explainations as to why Mamutu affords their company no profitable concensus to consider releasing it as a freeware, i come to the conclusion it's better left buried under their parking lot and forgotten.

    It was rather naive IMHO to even have publicly suggested at all that there were serious considerations about making it freeware. In fact, there's no substancial evidence other then the few early statements to indicate anything even remotely resembling that Emsisoft would do anything other then kill it off completely. Really something useful to spread about a loyal security community and licensed customer base to learn of.

    Be that as it may, i personally don't go any further with Emsisoft products anyway anymore then EEK and even with that, it's hard pressed to offer concise enough results to warrant serious attention toward encouraging interest in their more basic products line. Just my own honest opinion of the matter.

    A2 Squared used to hold a very high standard and did very well in accommadating all user's basic security needs and has over time proved extremely flexible in taking customers and free user's concerns equally serious. How disappointing it's become unfortunately to finally realize how so much that company policy is changed in an effort to keep pace instead with what's perceived as a more profitable spreadsheet in keeping with THOSE competitors business model instead of remaining with it's own which has served Emsisoft so successfully over the years.

    No rant, just taking stock of what's proven itself so well for so long.
     
  12. itman

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    A properly configured HIPS gives better protection than a behavior blocker. The key words being "properly configured." Most HIPS are beyond the technical ability of the average PC user. The average PC user has difficulties understanding the basic concept of HIPS which is "trusted" versus "untrusted." Once they get into defining system and application areas to protect in a HIPS such as Comodo's Defense+, they are totally lost. I actually believe that a HIPS for the average user leads to a less secure system due to misconfiguration.

    Threatfire in it's heyday was the ultimate protection for the average user. Totally silent with almost zero user interaction. Norton's Sonar works in similar fashion. Now for techies, the above are way to hands off.

    From what I have seen, EAM's behavior blocker aka Mamutu gives a balanced solution; mostly silient but alerting at the appropriate time. My main complaint so far is that it's "intelligence" user base appears to not recognize widely known but infrequently used speciality utility programs. I might switch to using Emsisoft as my reference source versus its user community.
     
  13. siketa

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    They could make current version as free abandonware.
    Therefore, no further support would be needed/expected while they would keep its code not opened to public.
     
  14. itman

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    I just thought of another behavior blocker that no one could touch in its prime time - Prevx 3.
     
  15. Noob

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    Was that even a true BB? I dont think so.
     
  16. BoerenkoolMetWorst

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    I think Prevx 1 and 2 had real HIPS/BB, 3 changed it to a cloud-based model without user interaction.
     
  17. StillAlive

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    I think i shall choose the same approach, in spite of the fact that i have keys for EAM for 400+ and even 600+ days (found on some "underground" resources).
     
  18. Charyb

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    I am not certain what you mean by "underground". Care to explain? If you are talking about obtaining illegal keys then this is not impressive at all.

    Emsisoft produces a great product and I will continue to support them.
     
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  19. EASTER

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    I think it's pretty sad when today we have certain agencies for some vendors (spokepersons), whom choose to resort to raise user's expectations only to hold them out for hostage. In times past it wasn't that way. If the product was done and served the developer's purpose and/or profit, they would easily release it "as is" (freeware) and would just retain the source code for keeping.

    You can even today still light up even CyberHawk/ThreatFire and have a halfway decent BB busting tail between system activity.
     
  20. StillAlive

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    illegal keys, yes. But me doesn't cares about any impressions. :)

    I would say more than this: they produce one of the best security products available on the whole Earth now.
    But i really hate don't like their policy towards Mamutu.
     
  21. Noob

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    Lol dont say more or you might get busted.
     
  22. itman

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    I say you'll get busted sooner than you think. WIN 7/8, MBAM Pro, and God knows what else will scan your installation HDD for bootleg software. Software Big Brother is everywhere these days.

    You might get away with the bogus EAM keys since EAM might not belong to the above shared "data mining club" the big boys do. It might actually have something to do with EAM corp. ethics? I have not seen any evidence to date that EAM is scanning my entire installation for data mining purposes.
     
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  23. J_L

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    How can license keys have anything other than server-side validation? MBAM Pro only detects cr**ks and key***gers client-side, and I'd like to see Windows bother with any w**ez other than itself.

    Please, enough with the theories as if you know what they're looking for. Lastly, I've given up on Mamutu as well, no amount of w**ez will earn my trust, and temporarily licenses aren't worthwhile.
     
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    ""I say you'll get busted sooner than you think. WIN 7/8, MBAM Pro, and God knows what else will scan your installation HDD for bootleg software. Software Big Brother is everywhere these days.""

    And there are still people that will put Win 7 or 8 on their computers knowing full well that it is loaded with spyware I wouldn't do this even
    if I didn't have any hacked software on it
     
  25. altruist

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    since mamutu is going to be gone, anyone know of any good alternatives?
     
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