Thanks Peter i have created a rescue cd v6,and restored an image with ifw because i don't like have it installed does the macrium rescue cd 6 change the boot files in the reserved zone? i have seen that in the rescue cd ,the iso there a program to edit the boot like EasyBCD hope it's safe boot with macrium home 6 , i mean hope it does not change anything outside create an image and restore an image thanks @Peter2150 i hate invasive programs
Macrium will only place an entry into your BOOT CONTROL DATA (BCD) if you use their "Add BOOT Menu Option"... otherwise it does nothing in that area.
thanks @TheRollbackFrog i guess i will try it for now i have created an image with image for windows , installed macrium home 6 , create the rescue cd , restore the image , because i don't want macrium installed hope the rescue cd is not invasive like the program
Like Mr. Frog said, as long as you don't enable the "boot menu option", macium reflect is just like any other regular program. The only thing I don't like is that MR will leave a log file in your root directory when you backup/restore. You can simply delete that log file afterward, no biggie.
hi thanks for the informatin about the log where is the option boot menu? but the installation creates files inside the reserved zone, i hate it
I think you will have to manually enable boot menu option after install of MR, otherwise it's not active. Could you be more specific about the "reserved zone"? Where is it located?
For what it's worth I have a rescue usb key, but I mainly use the boot menu option. In fact I have in both my Win 7 images and in my Win 10 images, and I use the Windows restore and boot menu option to switch back and forth. It works like a champ pete
I guess I don't understand what you mean by Macrium being "invasive"... can you explain? ...and as oliverjia has asked... what exactly is the "reserved zone" (never heard that before) on your system that you keep referring to? I think I'm having a terminology issue when it comes to some of your descriptions
There is no reserved zone in Macrium, but if you are referring to the files that are added to the root drive or C drive when you create a WinPE Recovery Environment (RE), then those files can be easily deleted afterwards. Usually, when you create a WinPE based RE, using default Macrium settings, the WAIK files, the finished iso and the actual RE are created in the following folders in Windows 7 onwards: C:\ProgramData\Macrium\ and C:\Boot\Macrium\ You can manually delete these files after you have created the RE and burnt it to Flash drive or moved it to a different partition. This is what I do and then you have nothing added or left over on your hard disk from the creation of the Macrium WinPE RE.
Mantra are you thinking that Macrium creates some kind of hidden "zone" like Acronis. It doesn't. All it does is add it to Windows boot menu Pete
hi well i remember , in the past ,i have installed v4 or v5 (maybe macrium pro) and after the installation i have found the macrium files inside the system reserved partition, i have found out using a linux distro and after the uninstalletion , macrium left such files sorry for my wrong translation
Aha! I now know what Mantra's "Reserved Zone" is... No problem... occasionally we need to get in sync with each other's terminology, it helps us understand one another much better. Thanks again, Mantra!
Not having Macrium installed is a real loss to the user of the application. Macrium's newest scheduling system for automatic backups is a real pleasure to use, and its automatic setup of an external restore (either BOOT menu or external Recovery Media) also is nice to use... much less to worry about when operations are performed. If you decide to use the product, you might want to rethink your resident installation of Macrium Reflect (it really is very helpful). I sure don't consider the program invasive at all. As Raza007 has said, the files downloaded to create your necessary Recovery Media may be deleted if you don't want them around (of course you'll have to re-download them when a new Recovery Media is indicated or needed) and a simple LOG file left in your ROOT System partition is not a big deal... lots of apps leave LOGs in strange places, LOGs can be very important. Macrium adds one small background service (whose running be controlled MANUALLY) to your system which helps with any necessary image mounting you would like to do to obtain previously imaged files. Other than the above, I can't think of anything else. I sure don't deem that kind of application activity as "invasive" at all.
I no longer use them on any systems I build from scratch... just part of the KISS principle I try and practice.
hi to all and thanks to all of the patience my w7 and w8.1 have system reserved and in the past i remember macrium installation , stored files in the system reserved zone, even without building a rescue cd now i really don't want such files i used a linux distro ,and i remember the macrium uninstall program left all the files and folders inside the system reserved zone, i did not like it(for me it's invasive)
Mantra, just so you know... As Raza has said, PE building files are only downloaded and stored if you want to build a Recovery Media... the Macrium specific PE files are stored on your System partition, the general Windows PE files are stored in DEFAULT on your System partition or you may specify where they are to be stored, and you can always get rid of them after you've built your Recovery Media. Today's Macrium also asks you during the uninstall procedure what you want to leave around after it's finished... you can tell it to dump everything if you wish. Sounds like it's much cleaner now than in the past.
yes TheRollBackFrog the best would be have everything the programs or program data folders maybe maybe the macrium team will do it , thank you
You are right in that Macrium will add files to your System Reserved Partition (SRP) during the installation of the software, even if you do not create a WinPE RE. The reason is that if you have a SRP, then your BCD configuration folder is on that partition. It will be \boot folder on the SRP. During its installation, Macrium adds a folder to this \boot, to point to and load its RE, in case you intend to have the Macrium RE on your local Hard Drive, instead of a removable media. Macrium has no choice in this matter because if you want to boot into its RE, the files have to be inside this \boot folder. This Macrium folder is usually less than 2 mb in size (at most 10 mb) and I am sure when you uninstall Macrium, the software will remove this folder as well. Test this in v6, with the option to remove all files checked. If you do not have a SRP then your BCD configuration and the \boot folder is on your C partition. And like others here, I too got rid of my SRP long time ago, so my Macrium folder resides on the C partition. Keep in mind that in case Macrium does not remove this folder on uninstall, you can manually delete it. However, I am confident that Macrium would remove this folder, if the option to remove all files is selected in the uninstall wizard.
Just wanted to add some information here about the Reflect Service "Macrium Reflect Image Mounting Service". As you may remember that I was asking questions about it some time ago on this thread and so I did some testing on this service some time ago and here are the results: This service, even though the description says that it is for mounting images, has nothing to do with image mounting. If you end the running process in the task manager or stop the service and then disable the service from starting, you can still mount and browse reflect images, just as you would do otherwise. This service also does not have anything to do with task scheduling, when your computer in up and running, as Macrium's task scheduling is handled by Windows Task Scheduler. The only purpose this service currently serves is when your scheduled task is due but your PC was shutdown at that time. If you had scheduled the missed task to run on next system startup, that task will not run if this service is not running in the background i.e. service not set to automatic. This was somewhat confusing for me because as I mentioned before, Macrium's tasks are handled by Windows task scheduler service. So I went and had a look at the Macrium scheduled task in Computer Management > Task Scheduler Library > Macrium Task > Settings tab You can clearly see that the box for "run the task after the scheduled task is missed" in unchecked and greyed out, so you cannot manually change it. You need the Reflect service running to tell Windows task scheduler to run the missed task. I am not sure why it is designed this way and why the service is named "Image Mounting Service" when it clearly has nothing to do with image mounting at all, but these are questions that only folks at Macrium can answer. In v4 and v5 of Macrium, I used to set this service to "manual" and so this service never used to run on my system. However, in v6, you have to set this service to either "automatic" or "automatic(delayed)", otherwise your missed scheduled tasks will not run on the next startup. Hopefully this information was useful to someone.
hi 1) there is no way to avoid the log (after have created an image or restore an image with the rescue cd, right ? 2) is there a way to delete system reserved partition files and folders thanks
I read a blog about the system reserve partition. http://www.howtogeek.com/192772/what-is-the-system-reserved-partition-and-can-you-delete-it/ He said not to delete it. Windows 7 may need it to store what ever application may use it in the future. He said the reserve partition is not going to hurt to leave it alone. Windows 7 may not startup some day . May end up with the unable to boot due to the mbr Windows 7 uses. It is a pain to try and change where Windows 7 stores the bootmgr files. The command line is complicated. If you do not know how to use the command to change what partition the boot files are stored. It is irritating when you get the unable to find the bootmgr files. There is the one from XP. Now there is Windows 7. Microsoft made it more dificult with Windows 8. Windows 8 modifies all drives that are on line whem installing Windows 8. This will prevent a Windows 7 drive from a messed up mbr. I had to restore a Windows 7 Ultimate after connecting it after I installed Windows 8 and 10. All on separate hard drives. They were not online when I installed Windows 8 and 10 preview. Ended up with the unable to boot use repair when I selected the Windows 10 drive to boot. I read online not to connect other boot drives while installing Windows 8. Windows 10 is based on Windows 8 so it will mess up other boot drives if they are online when installing Windows 8 or 10.
I"ve only done with Shadowprotect. Just imaged the c: partition. Then on restore, I deleted both partitions, and restored the c: partition to the whole drive. On restore SP fixes the boot stuff. I've done this one two machines, and run for several years with nary a problem
hi thanks but if i restore the system reserved partition only with macrium , it left a log inside this partition if i want to delete this log , this macrium file how can i do ?
