Macrium Reflect

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Stigg, Nov 23, 2013.

  1. Hadron

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    Here you go, Brian.
    As per the Macrium thread above, there is an added 450 MB Recovery partition.
    And notice the 128 MB partition on the destination D Drive.

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  2. Hadron

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    Here is the Disk Managment pic.
    I don't even know what the 450 MB partition purpose is. Can I safely get rid of it? People on the Macrium thread have stated they deleted it.
    Notice that you can't see the 128 MB partition on my D drive in Disk Management.

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  4. Brian K

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    Hadron,

    It's the Win10 Recovery partition containing Winre.wim. Don't delete it or you will lose the Recovery Tools. It's also needed if you want to create a TBWinRE.
     
  5. pling_man

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    The 128 MB partition on each drive is the Microsoft Reserved Partition.

    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd799232(v=ws.10).aspx#MicrosoftRecoveryPartitions

    The partition is not formatted and doesn't show up in Disk Management. If you delete it you can re-create it using the command line utility FDISK but its a bit tricky.

    The larger partition that occurs after the C: partition on the system drive is the Windows Recovery partition referred to by Brian. This is formatted but doesn't usually have a drive letter.
     
  6. TheRollbackFrog

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    The Microsoft Reserved Partition should not be on the D:\ partition unless that was a BOOT partition a long time ago. It should be co-located with the Windows partition (C:\).
     
  7. Hadron

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    No, it was never used for any other reason.
    I put it in new as a backup drive.
     
  8. Hadron

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    Do I have to add it to my backup or is it not necessary?
     
  9. pling_man

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    My understanding is that every GPT disc is supposed to contain an MSR partition.

    It isn't necessary to back these up because they can always be re-created. But it's easier to back them up and restore them when needed that it is to recreate them using partitioning tools or FDISK.
     
  10. Hadron

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    I can't remember having an unselected partition prior to the Anniversary Update.

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  11. TheRollbackFrog

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    This from WikiPedia...

    The MSR should be located after the EFI System Partition (ESP) and any OEM service partitions, but it must be located before any primary partitions of bootable Windows operating systems. Microsoft expects an MSR to be present on every GPT disk, and recommends it to be created as the disk is initially partitioned. However, the MSR partition is not actually required for Windows to work, so can be deleted[citation needed] on non-bootable disks, but it may be required for correct operation of RAID array management on UEFI BIOS or some hardware RAID systems that do not internally hide their own RAID data structures created at start of disk (using internal LBA offset and adjusting the exposed disk size); though doing this can possibly break the boot-loader with some hardware-specific device drivers operating with native (untranslated) LBA addresses.

    Based on that, it may have been created by anyone along the way but clearly is not needed on non-BOOTable disks.
     
  12. Brian K

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    One image of the partition should be sufficient as the partition doesn't change. Except when there is a Windows upgrade.

    Out of interest, was this originally a Win7 computer?
     
  13. TheRollbackFrog

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    Brian... if Hadron purchased a pre-formatted GPT HDD, most likely the pre-format put it on the disk (based on general GPT requirements).
     
  14. Brian K

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    TRF,

    My comments were only related to the disk containing the OS. It is a MBR disk. Sure, the data disk would have been GPT when he bought it.

    A Win10 upgrade doesn't always result in a Recovery partition. I suspect it depends on whether sectors in use are at the end of the OS partition. If Hadron is keen he can move data from the System Reserved and Recovery partitions into the OS partition and only have one partition on the disk. But I wouldn't bother. I used to do this but we will have to get used to having multiple partitions on HD0, especially with UEFI systems.
     
  15. Hadron

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    So, I don't need to backup that 450 MB Recovery partition? Notice that it is not ticked.
    The Macrium thread seems to suggest that this is common after the Anniversary Update.

    Edit: I have gone into Reflect and edited the XML and ticked the 450 MB Recovery partition.
    I guess it must be needed if Microsoft put it there and named it Recovery.

    Incidentally, I have the same 450 MB Recovery partition on my other 3 desktops that I just checked. I ticked them in the Reflect XML also.
     
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  16. PCFAN2014

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    Macrium Reflect v6.2.1495
    Date 9th August 2016

    What's New 6.2.1495 - 9th August 2016

    • Windows 10 systray backup notifications
      The number of Windows Tray Notifications shown when a scheduled backup starts has been reduced.
    • Improved application exit performance
      Reflect could occasionally 'hang' for many seconds before shutting down. The exit and cleanup functionality has been improved.
    Bug Fixes

    • Windows PE Image mounting failure
      When UEFI booting Windows PE rescue media, mounted images could fail to open in PE Explorer. This has been resolved.
     
  17. paulderdash

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    :thumb:

    Just when I was going to ask @TheRollbackFrog if he knew of an ETA ...
     
  18. 3x0gR13N

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    Do we need to use the 1511 version of Windows PE or is it fixed in the older .10240 as well?
     
  19. TheRollbackFrog

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    You're welcome :argh: (Thanx, PCFAN2014!)
     
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  20. TheRollbackFrog

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    The issue was in the Reflect application so it's best to rebuild your Recovery Media to insure the Build 1495 Reflect release (after you update to it) is used in the new build.

    If you're using the BOOT Menu option, you'll need to do the above rebuild first, then a 'No Menu" on the BOOT option followed by a reinstalled PE of your choice.
     
  21. 3x0gR13N

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    I understand, thanks for clarifying. :)
     
  22. beethoven

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    Just wondering - my Win 10 Pro 64 bit wants to upgrade from V 1510 to 1511 and my Macrium V 6.1.1311 wants to upgrade to V 6.2.1495. Given the issues with the anniversary update, some of which caused issues with Macrium - what is my best course of action. Should I update Macrium first as they solved their issues or upgrade Windows first and rely on my previous Macrium version with tested boot up media? Also, not quite sure I understood the deferred upgrade previously as while I can see the option to schedule the win 10 update for a different time, I cannot shut down my computer without going into the upgrade mode.
     
  23. TheRollbackFrog

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    B, you're not talking Anniversary Update here (1510 to 1511... I never heard of 1510, maybe 1507?), only 1511 is pre-anniversary. Anyway, do the Reflect update prior to any W10 changes, then you won't have any Reflect issues along the way (no guarantee on W10 issues, though)
     
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  24. beethoven

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    thanks Froggie - will proceed accordingly
     
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