Latest test from the Malware Research Group Project #19

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by Retadpuss, Jun 21, 2009.

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  1. Nomad Soul

    Nomad Soul Registered Member

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    What can you say about this test.
     
  2. Astech

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    I bet few vendors would be interested in more details about this test:)
     
  3. Retadpuss

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    I could say several things. Starts on an unproven premice, does not describe the sample used in any meaningful way etc. Clearly an amateur.

    What do you think about it?

    Puss
     
  4. Nomad Soul

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    Now one should be interested in such kind of "test".
    Amateur, of course, but what the difference with discussed test? You mean something like that droll words should be said:
    I think both tests means little more then nothing. They make me laugh by methodology and scare because people take this serious and base their decision on it. And test under the link I gave shows "tester's" professionalism better then AV detection rate)

    It seems like every second want to make an independent AV test and publish the results, but every 1000 could do it in right way and with right conclusions.
     
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  5. Astech

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    OK, would you be so kind to enlighten us here and show us how it's supposed to be done, because it seems that nobody knows their work as well as you do.
    Also it looks to me that you are trying to flame this topic because your posts don't really make any sense, but then again I could be mistaking;)
     
  6. Retadpuss

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    Silence.......
     
  7. the Tester

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    What's the testbed?
    It would be nice to at least know the categories(spyware, trojans etc..)that made up that testbed.
     
  8. Nomad Soul

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    I never mean I could make such test because it's impossible. May the AMTSO be with you, but it also can't.
    AV A is great it found 99,9%, and the AV B really improves and found 98.9%, but I will never use AV C because its terrible an only found 60%. Is it serious and make sense than discused test doesn't make sense.?
    Doesn't play great role. Malware I guess) But you are right it's better to be mentioned.
     
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  9. Retadpuss

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    Thanks for the reply, its made a few things clear. I now know you dont know what you are talking about, that you have nothing to do with IT security and that you have no logical point to make.

    Thanks,

    Puss
     
  10. alex_s

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    Does it make any sense to criticize the test not giving any clear evidence it is flawed ? And did you actually see anybody saying "I will never use AV C because its terrible an only found 60%." ? This is exaggeration. The test are not perfect, this is by definition, but a set of the tests can help to have more or less correct picture. From the other side, ignoring the tests hardly helps to have a correct picture.
     
  11. Nomad Soul

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    Have you red my any previous post?
    Very little exaggeration.
    Such tests can't show any correct picture. How many times should I repeat?!
    I can say this about you.
    Don't know what to do now. I crushed my head against the wall of your naivety, misunderstanding and foolishness. How can I live now?:rolleyes:
    I see you are happy here to live like lemmings in well-known game.
     
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  12. alex_s

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    Yes, but there are not any evidence, there are just generic speculations.
     
  13. Nomad Soul

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    This test havn't any evidence, there are just generic speculations.:D
    You mean I should write dissertation about it?
    Sensible people have not paid attention to such tests since long time ago. Plague myself for doing this now.:p
     
  14. Astech

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    Dear Nomad Soul,

    As I am not a member of Wilders Security Forums staff I will only state my opinion.
    It is clear that you have a problem with MRG team and not this test, may I remind you that we are here to comment on this test with facts not fiction, if you have anything smart to say us please do, if not may I suggest that you ether get over your problem or take it up somewhere else.

    Using multiple accounts with the same rhetoric is never a good idea.

    Cheers.
     
  15. Nomad Soul

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    No
    I see you have nothing to say, so pour words like "What do you mean? Where the evidence?" on me.
    Never mind.

    I am waiting for some other opinions. May be I was too right
     
  16. alex_s

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    I mean you have nothing meaningful to say, unfortunately. As for sensible people, they pay attention to ANY information, because information can never be enough.
     
  17. X9000

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    Nomad Soul, he kind of funny. He remind me of EP_X0FF co-creator of RkU. :D
     
  18. the Tester

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    Whoa! "The testbed doesn't play great role". o_O
    What a program was tested against definitely plays a great role!
    That's why any trustworthy test site lists what makes up their testbed by category and number from each category.
     
  19. Astech

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    MRG's next test is going to be a Real Time test, this one I can't wait to see:)
     
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