ITW Viruses a Priority?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Dazed_and_Confused, May 30, 2004.

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  1. Arin

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    dear RejZor and Firefighter, please calm down and lets analyze the facts. we all are humans, longtime ago a bloke thought 640k of memory was enough, but things changed. things changed because WE changed it. now the Wildlist guys thought that THIS might be the perfect plan to create a list of HOT viruses. but if you think there is a problem then why don't you mail them pointing out the problem with a probable solution?

    personal virus collection is a very very sensitive issue. everyone thinks that their collection is the best. so if some AV software missed a bug then it surely touches a sore spot. but lets admit the facts, there are a lot of viruses and other malicious codes which we wouldn't have seen if we didn't open those sites or downloaded those files. so if we consider those facts we'll see that a lot of those bugs in our collection are just rare species. its our fault that we popularize them. or maybe we THINK they are popular.

    if you think i'm just babbling then please take out your samples and mail them to you nearest Wildlist reporters. surely they'll report your bug and within days you'll see that your exotic bug is now officially in the wild. do this before you blame the Wildlist organisation for their shortsightness. i'm sure they'll happily applaud every CONSTRUCTIVE moves you make.

    regarding the VB tests i don't think they are run by people who are unware of the tactics to find a virus by a certain AV software. sometimes the holes lie in the software itself. its not easy to develop and maintain a software which can pinpoint thousands of viruses with little memory utilisation and no confliction. any real system programmer will support me on this.

    if you want the tests with ITW trojans then checkout this site. but i feel that they are not a major threat as it can be controlled by some good practices. but there are some codes which will still attack you even if you don't do anything wrong. take those worms exploiting vulnerablities for example. in that way i think the Wildlist is doing a pretty good job.

    the extra protection provided by DrWeb and many other softwares is just for those who really explores the Net. i like this feature as i'm one of those explorers but still i don't find any reasons to bash the Wildlist Organisation.
     
  2. RejZoR

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    You missed the thread. I'm pretty calm here :D :cool:
     
  3. Arin

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    oh never mind that. my genius stroke of keys took the wrong path. i was too lazy to separate your ID.
     
  4. Kobra

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    Detecting trojans/worms and malicious spyware is *FAR* more important to me.. Probably because in 2 years, i've run into 2ish viruses, as opposed to 100-150+ trojans/malware/backdoors.

    I don't even consider ITW's much of a threat, and i'm in a high risk situation here for the most part. But then, almost every single PC i've done security checks on, has had trojans, moreso than viruses...

    Thats probably why I pay no attention to VirusBulletin.
     
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  5. RejZoR

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    Currently the most popular malware are worms,trojans and hybrid spyware that acts like trojan mixed with worm. Pure destructive viruses are pretty rare. Anyone remember CIH aka Chernobyl?
     
  6. Arin

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    100150+ trojan/malware/backdoor? i wonder what you do when you're connected. this is the latest detection data of F-Prot:

    48862 DOS/Windows
    404 Unix/Linux
    8144 Office/Macro
    217 Java
    4 PalmOs
    6159 Script (VB & Javascript, Unix shell, IRC, INF)
    2750 Batch/Others (AMi, PIF, PHP, WinBat, .Bat)
    49028 Destructive Programs

    certainly F-Prot has the biggest database. i'm really puzzled by your data.
    anyway none of my business suit yourself with your needs. if you don't care for ITW then don't care but remember that those are your personal opinions. i still think ITW poses the greatest threats to the common people. thats why all the AV companies are mainly concerned with ITW detection.

    i agree with you RejZor. i guess you meant WIN32 viruses are rare now. its true and looking at the trend i feel that soon they'll be like those boot infectors. remember Wyx or Preboot?
     
  7. Kobra

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    http://www.kaspersky.com/news?id=149089480

    Lotta viruses on there eh? Seems to me, this whole Virus ITW fetish will soon pass, and everyone will be scrambling to add real Trojan/Worm/Malware and deep unpacker support to their products (or is that already happening?). But thats just my opinion, take it or leave it.
     
  8. I just want to ask a simple, humorous question... If there are "So Many Viruses" out there... How come my AV isn't kicking in every 15 seconds? LOL..

    The truth of the matter is that my AV only kicks in when I go to a porn site or a malicious site that is either trying to sell me something or is involved with entertainment or network television...for the most part...
     
  9. Technodrome

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    Ahem....This is the first symptom of poor security setup. Your av should kick in every 5-10 sec. Parental Guidance Suggested. :D


    tECHNODROME
     
  10. Technodrome

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    Let hope, but I don't see it happening anytime soon...


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  11. Arin

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    considering ITW viruses as the main threat isn't a fetish. we all have good reasons and there are lots of worms in ITW now. trojans and other similar malwares are main threats for porn surfers and warez crawlers. good question Sharp shooter. you're right on target.

    by the way that word FETISH didn't sound that good. i'm not very good in English so i thought it'll be better to google that word. guess what i found....
     
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