In Search Of Optimal/Perfect Firewall, But What If..

Discussion in 'other firewalls' started by Perman, Dec 7, 2007.

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  1. Perman

    Perman Registered Member

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    Hi, folks;

    We are all, perhaps, in search of an optimal/perfect firewall for our own use.

    During such process, while using a sub-perfect product, have you ever encountered a failure on that firewall ? if any, what are those symptoms ?

    Take care.
     
  2. WSFuser

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    I havent encountered "failure" but theres usually something I may not like about any particular firewall.
     
  3. Perman

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    Hi,

    Would that "something" on a particular firewall, which we likely have faced at some point of time, clip the ability of protection ? and subsequently constitute a fatal failure ?
     
  4. Stem

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    A waste of time/ space on server.

    All users of any firewall will find a problem, be it from a bad UI to incorrect/inproper/non inbound filtering.

    If you do personally ever find a "Optimal/Perfect Firewall" then let us all know, we can then give our opinion on how bad the firewall is.
     
  5. Perman

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    HI, Stem:

    Thanks your inputs, but still did not solve my puzzle:

    If a firewall with the problem/problems you just described,

    Is it still safe to use ? I mean its core function (to protect user).

    Thanks.
     
  6. dmenace

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    You have to be more specific. What do you mean by failure?

    Failure in terms of software vulnerabilities or failure in terms of bugs?
     
  7. Perman

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    Hi,

    What I mean by Failure is:

    Firewall can not perform its assigned duty--to shield users any attack from outside or within.

    If software vulnerabilities or design bugs are the source of such failure, then that app does not meet its job description.

    I have viewed so many reports after reports pointing out a given firewall's shortcomings, in academic, theoretical, and often experimental details, but up to this moment, have yet to see a single one to conclude that a given firewall is deemed Safe or Risky to use (pls correct me here, I may be over sighted).

    Therefore, at the end of day, I still do not know the firewall being used is Oked to keep or not, even not perfect/optimal , of course

    Take care.
     
  8. WSFuser

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    So far the firewalls Ive tried have stealthed my ports (except Avira Suite which I think needed tweaking). I dont know a lot about firewalls so I dont know of other failures.

    Sygate has that proxy issue though.
     
  9. wat0114

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    You can also ask about the level of SPI in a firewall that advertises it, even taking steps to seek that answer from "the horses mouth" but the horse might be reluctant to answer, and even treat your question as a trivial matter worthy of being swept under the carpet, as it were :cautious:
     
  10. Diver

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    Sometimes a software firewall will fail to load or initialize properly. It is usually going to be due to another major system change, like installing a different AV.
     
  11. clambermatic

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    one system that i deem harden-enough even in its initial deployment was 'smoothie', good enough for enterprise-class deployment. I know of & seen one midsize US-based call center operator that operates a couple of center in our AsiaPacific region that uses several 'smoothies' in each of their site.

    But still, i got techies' complain from smoothie deployment due to its requirement of using spare boxes... for the specific reason of '...that ugly & out-of-place thing'. :D

    But the most talkabout concern is 'reliability', which often got into conversations. :eek:
     
  12. ccsito

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    Based on the above quote, it seems that the user is more responsible for the failure of a firewall to perform its function, rather than within the program itself.
     
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