If running only 2 security programs real-time, which combination would you choose?

None, preferably, but on XP Home; Hostsman HostsServer and trust-No-EXE

(Does SuRun count? If so, I'll lose the HostsServer)

 

Norton 360 5.0 & Sandboxie.

 

Puzzled ?

"Sandboxie and WinPatrol Plus" ? That looks like two AV+AM programs. Where is the Firewall ? That would make three security programs.

Sandboxie in my opinion is as good as you can get at present, it is practically water tight, but you also need an AV and FW. So with SBxie, it is THREE programs.

My suggestion ? See my signature.

John

 

Since the OP mentions 'real-time', any combination of these would do for me:

SRP/Applocker + Comodo Defense+
SRP/Applocker + Sandboxie
SRP/Applocker + Returnil/Shadow Defender
SRP/Applocker + Avast/Avira
SRP/Applocker + Outbound Firewall

Sandboxie + Comodo Defense+
Sandboxie + Returnil/Shadow Defender
Sandboxie + Avast/Avira
Sandboxie + Outbound Firewall

Returnil/Shadow Defender + HIPS
Returnil/Shadow Defender + Avast
Returnil/Shadow Defender + Outbound Firewall

By Outbound Firewall, I mean Windows Firewall with Advanced Security or any other 3rd-party firewall. I also prefer the 2 apps to have 64-bit support even if I'm running 32-bit. And it must run fine under UAC/LUA...otherwise, forget it - I won't bother.

 

Windows already has a firewall, so do most hardware routers, so no additional overheads there, really.

I think the question is more likely to mean 'additional applications that are noticeably resident'

 

DefenseWall Personal Firewall, and maybe a lightweight AV - although at the moment I am happy only running DefenseWall

 

And then there's Windows Defender. I probably don't have that turned off at the moment. So the original question should be: "If running only 2 security programs real-time (not counting the ones that come with Windows), which combination would you choose?"

Are you sure we need a real-time AV? Some people get by fine without one. I go back and forth about it. If you are pro-AV, then it can be one of your two.

 

Trying one of safeguy's suggestions, Sandboxie and an outbound firewall, Privatefirewall.

 

Sandboxie and Norton Internet Security/Norton Antivirus.

 

CIS and Zemana. And Scotty stays no matter how many choices are offered.

 

Trying out a new combo of CIS firewall defense+ and Geswall.

 

My statement is based on what many "experts" have said on Forum`s and the web. Not all my ops are sandboxed, OE, FF,IE and some other programs run outside my beloved SBxie. I could force them into the sandbox, but do not bother. It is not a very common practice of mine to vacate Mr.Tzuk and his magic box, usually a matter of convenience and I am careful when I do it.

AND as most reputable AV programs do not have a conflict with SBxie there is no harm done. Any effects on SBxie and they are OUT !

John

 

So you don't sandbox your browser or your email client... that is, you "could", but you "do not bother". Okay. How about your PDF viewer and your media player? Do you bother to sandbox them?

 

@John Bull: What do you sandbox then?

 

Same here.

 

If you read my notes carefully, you will know what I sandbox, making your question somewhat redundant. I thought I had explained it clearly, but just for you :-

99.9% of my Internet activity is done using SBxie to open my Firefox browser. The rest you can get from reading my previous posts.

My spectrum of PC playschool activity is quite normal and reflective of personal choice, which I presume we all enjoy.

John

 

Then why did you say this?:

 

LOL, detective work!
Why you guys bashing each other

I think that's the 0.01% of the 99.99%

 

Its only a clarification

Btw... EAM+LnS

 

the one's on my siggy + prevx

 

It is rather tedious to keep explaining this point. NOTHING runs outside the sandbox UNLESS I allow it and as I have made it clear already - some activity is allowed by ME. That is why an AV program is necessary, which does no harm to SBxie or interfere with it.

SBxie is NOT an AV or AM program, it is a virtual platform on which all players are allowed, but cannot get off it. These players are vaporised on SBxie shutdown. You know this as well if not better than me.

Please let us get away from converting the OP into a scrutiny and clinical analysis of JB`s security combination and operational activity.

John

 

I'm not sure what the confusion is. Firefox is never run in Sandboxie except when it is. Stop being redundant. What I wonder about is who are these experts who are really just 'experts'. EDIT: JB, I don't think the question is about what you have chosen for security, but rather what appears to be unclear wording in describing your set-up. Which can lead to having a bit of fun, but no harm meant. Glad that you like Sandboxie as much as I do.

I keep trying to use an outbound firewall/HIPS, but the pop-ups are just too annoying. My problem is that nothing has gotten by Sandboxie yet, so the other programs don't have a lot to do. So as I go along, I don't feel it is necessary to put up with the inconvenience that some more robust programs can cause. So back to WinPatrol, which might not even be classified by some as anti-malware, but more an informational tool.

 

Sandboxie has you covered. IMO what your dealing with is,the wanting to "add more" to your comfort zone of security,when in reality,your good to go!

 

You are exactly right about this. Over the last year of using Sandboxie, I have gradually dropped some powerful programs. It has been a process of testing, dropping for instance a real-time AV for a while and running a couple of different on-demand scans every day. But then adding maybe a lighter AV for a while. Because Windows security seems complicated and hidden to me, it has been hard to know exactly what to get comfortable with. But a year of no infections sure helps.