I have seen the light (and it is green)

That one word holds true. LOL

Cheers

 

maybe to you, but your argument is wearing thin now because you just lost on your little pricing game

 

Just having some fun Chris. Red or Green, it doesnt matter. They are both the colors of Christmas.

 

i know you are, and im having a little back

remember though, this is a Drweb thread, not an Avira one.

 

then you should delete your references to Eset.

 

Come on guys-both are superior AVs (Avira & Dr. Web). No need to be contentious or my bullwhip (see avatar) will come in handy!

 

nah, if i really wanted it changed, it just would be easier for me to put you on ignore

swings and roundabouts, i could easily do the same and invade the avira ones too

 

come on guys back on topic FWIW pricing shouldn't have anything to do with protection as anyone's info & personal files are beyond pirice

 

Haha
I guess all three are great..
Buck just changed from the Dr. to Avira I see?

 

I alternate between the two and never had malware since I stated using PCs in 1980 (Apple). So they, and their predeccessors (Norton, Trend Micro, McAfee, etc) kept malware off my computers. My view is that the fear of infection is about 3% factual and 97% paranoiac. But, I cover my ass with good AVs for that 3% possibility. But even if system gets trashed with something that gets by, I just use a clean Acronis image and restore to non-malware state. Easy policy- works for me and anyone else if they want to try it!

 

Yes, but pockets do have varying densities, for example there are a couple of products I'd really like to use but cannot due to prohibitive price

 

With the downtrend in tech stock prices in the US, we will probably see AV programs from US makers drop a lot in price. That will pressure non-domestic to lower their prices as well. I would not be surprised to see AV prices drop 60% or more over the next year. So many will be more affordable for all.

 

As far I am concerned every AV is cheap. Look what you pay for 1 day protection.

The full monty for the doctor is € 21,84. This is 6 eurocents for a day protection. Can't buy a beer for that

 

would you mind telling us which ones?

 

I tired it but cant stand the GUI. its really odd.

 

BullGuard, F-Secure, Panda, Trend, all good products but unfortunately way too costly for my pockets

 

After reading this thread I couldn't resist and installed Dr. Web this morning. After using KIS 7 I thought Avira was light but the Dr. is definitely quicker, at least on my PC. Now if I can just get comfortable with some of the test reports on Dr. Web like AV-Comparatives...

 

Maybe you have seen the light and it is green for you =)
But for my its pretty black the light
I read something i dont remember where and it really maked me thoughtful.
I think it wrote like: Do you think Microsoft has some file inivisible or not on XP or Vista thats file will spy on your PC, and that file will never be Detected by any antivirus because its a Copyright Microsoft file.
This made my think twice, what if there is a file on: C:\windows\system32 or somewhere else that Microsoft can see what you have been thru on your PC, thats very serious .
What do you guys think?

 

It depends on how much credence you give to AV-Comparatives. There are other tests that show Dr. Web is very effective both short and long term. At shadowserver for example, Dr. Web is just behind Avira in 4th place on a year basis. I also use Premium Avira about half the time, and I think Dr. Web and Avira are nearly equal in detection, with Dr. Web superior in terms of cleaning ability. I have never had malware infect my systems with either AV (or any other for that matter), so I use what is the lightest on my machines (Dr. Web).

http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Stats.VirusYearlyStats

 

I think you are too paranoid. Microsoft is not smart enough to pull it off relative to those of us that would find out. Microsoft produces mediocre software for the masses, but they are master marketers. You can always use another operating system.

 

What was the answer then ?

What is the connection in particular with Dr.Web ?

 

you should remember that shadowserver still use 4.33 without .orgin detections, and without the shield technology for rootkits and complicated malware, yet still fares good results.

also remember, that drweb does not have different levels of heuristics, what you see is what you get, no testing on one level and users use a different one, the results you see are the results everyone should get.

 

It wouldn't make a difference, because it's a honeypot (flat file scanning)

 

but believe me, the .origin detections add ALOT to the overrall detection.

and would especially help for the kind of testing that shadowserver does.

i did try emailing but i guess they dont reply to the joe-public.

 

The .origin may add to the detection (since it's a heuristic engine) but the rootkit shield will do nothing.
Runtime behaviour analysis (example: F-Secure DeepGuard) and file scanning technologies (raw disk access, etc) add nothing to the detection rates in flat file scanning of inactive samples.