Hello: Stem suggested (off line) that I might start a LT on this 2 way FW. This thread will explore the use of this FW, and along the way hopefully we can share some tricks to optimize the use of it's features. FYI, I have downloaded and installed the firewall program PC Tools FW + version 18.104.22.168. Note that http://www.matousec.com:80/projects/...ge/results.php used version 36 in it's latest report if you happen use that site for FW information. Please note this thread doesn't deal with posts on the +'s or -'s of matouse. PC Tools FW is a free product from a well known vendor. If you want to work with us you really should install http://www.pctools.com/firewall/ at least on a test machine so that your results / posts are real! IMHO, this product is not a suite, it doesn't have a HIPS or a web site screener or a mail checker, blocking lists etc so don't look for these features. Users can achieve these features in other ways with PC Tools FW+. Here is a quote from their quick start guide: AS before a learning thread is not offer a chance to "knock" PC Tools. Far from it. Support for PC Tools FW is in the usual PC Tools forum. Here is my first advanced rule dealing with my mail client. The product helped me generate 3 specific application rules MS Outlook for pop3 ,smtp and UDP. All I did wasput in the specific ip's and ports used. It is clear about protcols and packet direction. The next thing I want to do is "untrust" my router as it is shared with a nasty PC upstairs used for on line gaming. But to be candid I'm not sure how this should best be done. I'm hoping Stem will help me do this! There is a Trusted zone and an Internet zone so there may be a way to use these to untrust my router.