How efficient is your security setup? (comparative contest)

Here is my result:
(after 3h browsing)

 

This sums up why i don't use the 2 otherwise excellent products in your list:

- Opera: 06:22
- OA: about the same as Opera, if you add all 4 processes.
- DW: 15:57 (>2 times the CPU time of Opera)

And you should see what happens with something more intensive like p2p...

 

In my Opera i have two separate windows open with ~30 tabs total.
DW CPU time is that because i was watching TV on my WMP and this takes many CPU time... i don't know why

BTW I don't use p2p software.

 

If you mean streaming TV ,yes it is very reasonable for both products to have that high consumption..certainly heavier than any p2p activity much more if you use real time decoders (ffdshow audio/video e.t.c)

 

Yes i watched (about one hour) streaming TV (decoder Audio: Windows Media Audio 9.1, 128 kbps, 44 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR
decoder Video: Windows Media Video 9)

 

And now after ~1h from my post with screen of the Windows Task Manager, DW process reached ~18min CPU time (on that hour i didn't watch TV).

 

That's strange, looks like a kind of compatibility issue. You need to get DW's logs exported on Opera start and then post it to the official DW support forum or send it to the support e-mail.

 

The screenshot was from Creer's PC actually.

 

Personally i don't know what exactly happens, but since i had first tried 2.45, DW was always the CPU Time champion. And even exceeded Emule (which is hard) in CPU Time (i think i had sent Ilya a screenshot with that).

DW is excellent for care-free protection, but it has a price in CPU.

 

Yes i know what you mean, i also tried 2.45 few months ago and if i have to compare on the CPU usage level version 2.45 and 2.47 i will tell that new version of the DW is more lighter.

 

Agree. But a reboot should solve any slowdowns that are evident after a long uptime.

 

Interesting, as some users have found the new version heavier.

 

Ok, i got new results. I contact with Ilya about high CPU time usage when i open WMP and he fixed this issue. I installed the new version of DW 2.47, and problem disappeared.

These are screens from Windows Task Manager and Process Lasso (average CPU usage in %), 5h after turn on my computer (~4h browsing Opera, and ~3h browsing FireFox):

Windows Task Manager:


and

Process Lasso:

 

I remember when in v2.45 CPU usage was about 15%-40% in new version max which i noticed was ~12%. About CPU time - i think it is not bad, of course could be better but this not overkill my computer. I can accept this.

 

Sure looks better... OA has taken the lead.

That's all that matters at the end.

 

You have missed working set with actual RAM. Actual RAM is virtual memory used. Using win API you can force out actual memory from a working set to a virtual memory. Some sneaky coders use this trick to fool inexperienced users like you to believe their programs are low on memory usage

 

Wow. SOME ONE is jealous...

So what your claiming is that Comodo's Developers are sneaky and fool inexperience users to have such low RAM? Obviously you have missed the point it. Unlike other products, Comodo does NOT use RAM when it's not needed. When it's not needed, It won't give out RAM,- It will remain low, Is this a trick? No it's a fact.

Bottom Line: CIS is very VERY efficient and has almost no impact on your system, period.

You expect me to believe your arrogance referring me as an inexperienced user? Don't be a keyboard hero. Get real mate.

Cheers,
Josh

 

What is the total CPU time and disk access (second time asked)?

 

I posted this quite a while back but some may have missed it.

XP only. Open Taskmanager and note explorer's mem usage.

Open My Documents and minimise to tray and note explorer's mem usage.

 

Please notice that I have checked in my Windows properties: "Launch folder windows in a separate process"
After open My Doc - explorer.exe, Ram usage was 3,350k, when i minimise window then Ram usage dropped to 700k.

 

Hi mate.

I'll give you a new screen shot with total CPU Time & Disk Access when v3.8 goes final hopefully on the 10th of Feb...

At the moment I returned to v3.5 for testing purposes...


Cheers,
Josh

 

Now note Taskmanager's mem usage, minimise, bring it back up and check it's mem usage again.

 

Thx as said, want to try it on the Vista64 gaming rig of my son (speed is everything for him), is the new CIS 3.8 fully 64 bits?

 

Oh, no. Please, try to stay withing the technical context, do not jump to personalities.

Try to read carefully. I said "some sneaky coders". This may be including Comodo devs and may be excluding. Everybody is free to make his own conclusion. But the main point is this is just completely impossible to implement HIPS functionality using modern compiler without some minimal RAM, which in a general case makes 8 -20MB (depending on implementation). Also this depends on optimization model. The code may be optimized for RAM or for a performance. But in any case when I see 4MB working set vs 30MB virtual memory I say - this is poorly coded, because such disbalance causes unnecesary system slowdown. It's better to set working set to 15MB inthis case (with 1GB RAM which is standard nowadays this in not a figure one should be ashamed of) and get the better performance. Another important moment is how much resources hooking process pushes out on other processes. You know, the hooks work in other processes context and theoretically this is possible to get minimal RAM and CPU in a main process but the same resources will then be distributed withing the hooked processes. And for a firewall this is important how much resources firewall pushes out to a system, because NDIS level filters work withing System process context. This is very tricky task in a general case to judge what resources a program takes, and with some tricks this is very easy to fool the people with the figures Task Manager displays. This is what I actually want to say.

Oh, no. Please, stop repeating that rubbish Melih hangs on your ears. You obviously do not understand how win32 memory model does work and surely you are not the one who can judge technical details (neither Melih can, cause he is rather politician than a tech person).

 

CIS 3.8 fully support 64 bit systems. The 3.8 version works in Windows 7 beta too according to most people if you install it in vista compatibility mode.

You disqualify yourself as to speak about those stuff right there.
Maby if you code in C#, but there is absolutely no reason a optimized hips should need to use 8-20 MB ram all the time.

Where do you get these stuff from.. Its well known that you can free memory you don't use when you code a program.

Some hard code the amount of memory a program should use, other use a more dynamic coding technique were you allocate the memory needed when its needed and remove (free) memory when its not needed. And no reason to go personal against Melih, he knows a lot about computers, much more than most here at wilders.