Defensewall or Gswall or Sandboxie ?

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by iphone, May 13, 2008.

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  1. iphone

    iphone Registered Member

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    Thank's to all for your help.

    I see that each software are good software.

    I have look on each software (on the web site).
    I undestand GsWall (policy restriction)
    I undestand Sandboxie (Sandbox for "write" access ...)

    I have look to defensewall too but i am not sure to understand how defensewall protect computer.
    Is it a "sandbox" like sandboxie or a policy restriction like Gswall or a mixed ?

    I see that Defenswewall track registry, files ... and can rollback !

    (Thretfire do that too if i understand)

    I have read many post on Wilders and all says that Defensewall is a good product.

    I just want to understand the + of DefenseWall.
     
  2. Ilya Rabinovich

    Ilya Rabinovich Developer

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    DefenseWall is a pure policy-based sanbox (its registry virtualization part is so little you may forget about it). It's working on driver-lever pre-defined security ruleset (allow-deny) + new resource protection section (granular resources access to protect your sensitive information from being hijacked). Its rollback feature is limited (it can't rollback files modified) and, mostly, made in order to allow advanced users manually remove malware from hard disks.
     
  3. EASTER

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    Ilya

    Is it in your opinion redundant or would the favor of an addition of adding SandboxIE as an additional security measure be redundant or add another safe advisement to increase security?

    EASTER
     
  4. Ilya Rabinovich

    Ilya Rabinovich Developer

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    Well, to tell the truth- I don't know. If you feel yourself more safer running both- why not? As about other security products- AV scanner could be useful for many users.
     
  5. Huupi

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    In a general sense a developper should know about past and current treats and act accordently in developping his software,stating that ''I don't know'' is at least doubtfull remark.

    To be on top of the ever evolving security business a developper should be in touch with the other solutions provided and exactly can differentiate between them and see where they supplement each other or where they are overkill or redundant if used at the same time.
    So Sandboxie and DefenceWall targed the same kind of treats but in a different way and to hear you saying that '' If you feel more safe '' is quite a statement that is useless in helping the questioner ! ;)
     
  6. Peter2150

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    Easter, I would say OA Run Safer and DW should work well together all though somewhat redundant. I run OA Run Safer and Sandboxie together, and it works fine. Redundant in protection, but I like the fact Sandboxie makes the stuff go away.

    Pete
     
  7. aliennode

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    Can someone post step by step tutorial how to configure Sandboxie and Defensewall?
    What to actually configure
     
  8. hammerman

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    Easter,

    I had a problem using SandboxIE when it was combined with OA and DefenseWall. I had to abandon DefenseWall in the end.
     
  9. aigle

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    Add all of them: GW, DW, SBIE and BZ.

    It will increase the security greatly. Nothing will be able to execute, i hope. :)
     
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  10. Franklin

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    You could try their websites.
    Defensewall Help
    Sandboxie FAQ's
     
  11. CogitoErgoSum

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    Hello MikeNAS,

    I have noticed in your signature that you are running Shadow Defender(SD) alongside DefenseWall(DW). FYI, according to the link below SD is known to conflict with DW. For that reason and having experienced some conflicts myself, I have temporarily uninstalled SD and have replaced it with Returnil 2008 Personal Edition(free) for malware testing purposes.

    http://shadowdefender.com/download.html


    Peace & Gratitude,

    CogitoErgoSum
     
  12. Kees1958

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    Could somebody please tell me how I can run DefenseWall, GeSWall, ZoneAlaram Forcefield, Bufferzone, Sandboxie, SafeSpace, Virtual Sandbox, Returnil, ShadowServer, PowerShadow, Altris, Windows Steady State, Virtual Box, Virtual PC2007, VMware together with OA runsafer and EQSecure Sandbox?

    Im am not paranoia, just carefull. Any tips to increase the security of my anti-malware multi multi multi multi multi layered setup would be appreciated. I am sorry to hijack this topic OR is nearly the same as AND.

    By the way I have 80486 PC with 64MB ram

    Thanks
     
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  13. farmerlee

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    Plus it helps to save time as you don't have to reboot your computer to clean your system after browsing.
     
  14. WilliamP

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    My suggestion is to load everything ,re-boot and stand back.
     
  15. Franklin

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    Um err Kees, I don't see any blacklist scanners in your list.:rolleyes:

    Maybe add SAS and Kav realtime and another stick of ram! :D
     
  16. Kees1958

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    I do not need a blacklist scanner, I have created a black hole for malware with all these sandboxes and although it is virtual I know where my PC is, so no need to scan where it is.

    By the way my high speed cable connection is working flawlessly, I can see the pixels loading. Did you know that with this incredible build up I can even read the hidden morse code of the screen pixels!

    P - A - R - A - N - O - I - A

    :cool:
     
  17. LoneWolf

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    Whatever works. :D
    Thats why theres so many differant setups here.
    GesWall has never slowed down my pc.
    I had problems myself with earler versions of DefenseWall, but 2.3 and then upgrading to 2.4 is working flawlessly. :thumb:
    Sandboxie may slow opera from starting a few seconds here, but after i'm online thats where the slow down stops. Lightning fast. At least here it is.
     
  18. MikeNAS

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    I know that but I don't have any problems... Can you tell more?
     
  19. aliennode

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    Do I just have to close a Sandboxie browser after use or have to select delete contents after using a browser each time?
     
  20. CogitoErgoSum

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    Hello MikeNAS,

    When I was running SD alongside DW, I experienced excessive hard drive activity, above average to excessive registry and file fragmentation and some file corruption(had to run CHKDSK). While I can not confirm as I do not have it installed, it is possible that SD may interfere with DW's protection functionality.


    Peace & Gratitude,

    CogitoErgoSum
     
  21. LoneWolf

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    Just check the box and don't forget to hit apply.
    When you close your browser the contents of the sandbox will be gone.
     

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  22. aliennode

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    Hey
    I cannot save pictures while in Sandbox browser
    How do I save pictures to desktop or to my pictures folder while in Sandbox browser please?
     
  23. trjam

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    It will save them. When you close your browser it should pop up asking you if you wish to save if you have selected the option in Sandboxie.
     
  24. aliennode

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    Whereabouts is that?
    Also Ifound my logins are not being saved o_Oo_O
     
  25. LoneWolf

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    You can check the box for immediate recovery.

    2008-05-16_162303.png

    Of course if your unsure if something in your sandbox is nasty or not I would
    (and I do) scan the questionable object with all on my pc as well as with VirusTotal.
     
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