Crypto War news

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by TheWindBringeth, Mar 12, 2016.

  1. deBoetie

    deBoetie Registered Member

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    That's not stopped them in the past, because maybe their objectives are different to what's on the tin. I've never really bought the stupidity explanation for these things, there's usually power & money involved.

    Rather more sinister is the parallels with the provisions in the UK Investigatory Powers BIll - which I've always felt were "ordered" rather than being local requirements with any justification. Although nominally not specifically targeting encryption, it's hard to read the effect as anything other than being forced to insert backdoors - in a way that badly harms our own software industry and industry more generally, huge economic self-inflicted damage. The correlation between the intelligence communities has me very worried for what is implied for national interest and democracy, this all feels like a covert military/security junta taking over.
     
  2. mirimir

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    Hard times are coming, as automation replaces more and more of the former middle classes. Plus increasing impacts of global climate change. There's the risk of social breakdown and disorder. And so the powerful and their minions will need better monitoring and control. They're planning ahead, is all.
     
  3. TheWindBringeth

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    http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pub...eases?ID=EA927EA1-E098-4E62-8E61-DF55CBAC1649
    OFFICIAL draft: http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pub...&File_id=5B990532-CC7F-427F-9942-559E73EB8BFB

    The only difference I spot is in the definition of Court Order. The earlier leaked draft required it to be a court order to investigate or prosecute one or more listed serious crimes. This official draft simply says: any order or warrant issued by a court of competent jurisdiction. One area of change, but with huge potential consequences I'd say.
     
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  4. deBoetie

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    I was with them for the 1st 3 truisms. I do wish they'd follow them.

    Item 4, ALL providers of communications services and products (including software) - is the cracker, addressing everyone in the world - it shall be so! The rest of it appears to be in the same vein, notwithstanding that some of the compulsions are clearly in breach of the first three, in fact, are destructions of the rule of law.
     
  5. TheWindBringeth

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    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/14/burr_feinstein_bill_prompts_protests/
     
  6. TheWindBringeth

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    App Store Censorship and FBI Hacking Proposed at Congressional Crypto Hearing
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/...hacking-proposed-congressional-crypto-hearing

     
  7. TheWindBringeth

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    UK surveillance bill will force tech companies to disclose new products before they launch
    http://www.zdnet.com/article/uk-spy...ms-to-disclose-future-products-before-launch/

    Related, and earlier, report:
    https://www.privacyinternational.org/node/829
     
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  8. mirimir

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    It's a hard rain gonna fall :eek:
     
  9. TheWindBringeth

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    https://www.dailydot.com/politics/encryption-security-argument-burr-feinstein-op-ed/
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/29/us_government_proposes_rule_41_change/
     
  10. deBoetie

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    Pax Americana?

    This will lead to an internet partitioned by power-bloc firewalls, trying to protect their economic interests (most spying is ultimately about the money, not "protecting" us).
     
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    Feinstein-Burr 2.0: The Crypto Backdoor Bill Lives On

    -- Tom
     
  12. Minimalist

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    Former Microsoft executive thinks he has a solution to the cryptography war with law enforcement
    https://www.techspot.com/news/74349...ive-thinks-has-solution-cryptography-war.html
     
  13. mirimir

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    That's called key escrow, no matter how they obfuscate it, and it's not acceptable.

    Recall that someone stole all those hacking tools from the NSA.

    If the NSA can't secure its stuff 100%, what are the chances for a key escrow database? Even if keys are split, with pieces stored separately. If keys leaked, the impact could be system-wide. Total compromise.

    And how would anyone know whether keys had leaked or not? Smart adversaries wouldn't brag. They'd just collect juicy stuff, for a few years. And make careful use of it, to avoid raising suspicions.

    Dumb idea!
     
  14. RockLobster

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    Phones are only encrypted when they are turned off anyway so what's the big deal?
    Or do they assume phone encryption is applied while the phone is on the lock screen because if they do, they are wrong.
     
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    Tech giants hit by NSA spying slam encryption backdoors
     
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